Delta Payscale For Crj900?
02-01-2009, 10:02 AM
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Lighteningspeed, would that even be doable? Hasn't DL been trying to "spin off" Comair for years now with no takers? I think the ultimate compromise might be the better option for one very important reason. It will give the company the ultimate flexibility to fly whatever aircraft the market demands on a given route without having to adhere to scope language from ALPA.
This will also serve to ease the tension between labor and management. Now I know management could ultimately care less about being overly friendly with pilots. However, it could make life easier for both sides if one major issue is out of the way. And the current management at DL seems willing and capable of thinking out of the box this time around.
This will also serve to ease the tension between labor and management. Now I know management could ultimately care less about being overly friendly with pilots. However, it could make life easier for both sides if one major issue is out of the way. And the current management at DL seems willing and capable of thinking out of the box this time around.
I just don't see DAL management all of a sudden agreeing to recapture all of 320 or so Compass pilots along with all of its E175 flying into the mainline list. What would they gain by that? Takes away an opportunity to whipsaw Compass against Mesaba and Comair. Additionally, if DAL needed to furlough pilots later on in the year why would stapling Compass pilots into the mainline list make sense in terms of cost?
I am all for it if it happens, but I guess I am skeptical in light of what seems what they(NWA and DAL) have done in the past.
02-01-2009, 10:02 AM
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We cannot give too much flying to SKW for obvious reasons. They offered to buy OH a few years ago but we opted not to do that.
The deal with OH goes deeper than financial. I think that most if not all of the union leadership have a lot of heartburn over that. Just my thoughts though. Nothing official.
The deal with OH goes deeper than financial. I think that most if not all of the union leadership have a lot of heartburn over that. Just my thoughts though. Nothing official.
02-01-2009, 10:04 AM
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The costs being cheaper is that if it is on one list a lot of the junior guys would bid to fly at the CPZ level for QOL. That would reduce the training cycles. Scatter the most junior around the system a little more and making it easier to furlough with out a huge displacement training event.
02-01-2009, 10:05 AM
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We cannot give too much flying to SKW for obvious reasons. They offered to buy OH a few years ago but we opted not to do that.
The deal with OH goes deeper than financial. I think that most if not all of the union leadership have a lot of heartburn over that. Just my thoughts though. Nothing official.
The deal with OH goes deeper than financial. I think that most if not all of the union leadership have a lot of heartburn over that. Just my thoughts though. Nothing official.
02-01-2009, 10:07 AM
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I agree DAL...that was my point as well. I don't think a spin off would be successful. I also think that DL wants to figure out what the game plan is for 100 seat aircraft. I think they are taking a wait and see look at the C-Series, as they clearly seem unimpressed with the E190. Perhaps they don't want to invest too heavily in the E175 if they don't have plans for the E190.
02-01-2009, 10:10 AM
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Anyone hear anything about where the 717s stand? I've not followed up on that since the beginning of the year. I know they were considered but then the fall off on loads began so I suspect that is a dead project now.
02-01-2009, 10:19 AM
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On hold. A airline in Mexico is looking at them as well.
They also want all of MEH's remaining ones too. This could get interesting.
I thought that Lufthansa was the launch for the C-series. They announced it at the Paris Air Show
They also want all of MEH's remaining ones too. This could get interesting.
I thought that Lufthansa was the launch for the C-series. They announced it at the Paris Air Show
02-01-2009, 12:11 PM
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The quid for DAL is it saves money and makes it easier to furlough. We gain positions, and lock in that flying far more securely.
02-01-2009, 12:16 PM
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Bombardier C-series is still only on paper. Projected date for the first production of an actual aircraft has been pushed back several times for lack of interest and now it looks like at least another 3 years. I don't think DAL can wait that long for 100 seat replacement. With the gas price down, that is why we are hearing the increase in DC9 and MD88 utilization unless the economy bottoms out further in the next few months.
(even with higher gas prices) until a true next generation 100 seater is deployed and widely available.
02-01-2009, 12:24 PM
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If he was smart enough he'd realize it does work for him. More mainline flying equals more mainline jobs. Interview like we did and he has his right to fly the 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, et al. I like the adage, "Whatever it takes".
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