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Old 02-03-2009, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
LCA???

the other stuff I just have to say WOW!!!
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Being active in other roles means you are happy and comfortable to take on additional responsibilities and leadership roles. That plays a big deal when you consider that they are hiring future Captains not career FOs.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
there are only a couple more 900s that can be legally ordered under the current scope language. fwiw As far as getting the compass jets and pilots onto the mainline list i am all for it. Putting them on at the bottom now would be a win win for everyone. Instead of them having to wait the 30 months to flow they could get on now and start their longevity while also not missing out on lost seniority numbers over the course of those 30 months. WE NEED TO RECAPTURE THE FLYING, doing so would be a huge win for pilots nationwide. Selling our jobs, upgrades, and careers must stop.
No, you are not recapturing scope, management is exploiting the contract. If you staple the compass pilots, delta can exercise it's 96 options on CRJ900's. Management isn't buying any more E-jets, they are too expensive vs the CRJ900. The Compass resolution doesn't say anything about scope recapture, it's just a mainline seniority grab. Mesa is doing the same thing with their National Seniority List push. If you ask me, the compass pilots are worried they might get a furlough in the future. A risk they knowingly and willingly signed up for. If Delta furloughs any pilots back to Mesaba, I lose my captains seat, a risk I didn't sign up for. However, if I can't get anything out of the deal and compass pilots get mainlien seniority, I guess taking on 100 more CRJ900's will somewhat protect where I sit.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
LCA???

the other stuff I just have to say WOW!!!
This reminds me of the Bevis and Butthead comment that:

"If you have to ask, you'll never know".
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
No, you are not recapturing scope, management is exploiting the contract. If you put staple the compass pilots, delta can exercise it's 96 options on CRJ900's. Management isn't buying any more E-jets, they are too expensive vs the CRJ900. The Compass resolution doesn't say anything about scope recapture, it's just a mainline seniority grab. Mesa is doing the same thing with their National Seniority List push. If you ask me, the compass pilots are worried they might get a furlough in the future. A risk they knowingly and willingly signed up for. If Delta furloughs any pilots back to Mesaba, I lose my captains seat, a risk I didn't sign up for. However, if I can't get anything out of the deal and compass pilots get mainlien seniority, I guess taking on 100 more CRJ900's will somewhat protect where I sit.
How big is the number of furloughees that can flow back to Mesaba?
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You guys do realize that under the flow agreement we have to meet all the minimum requirements for delta or we are not eligible for the flow. So any mesaba pilot that does not have a college degree is out.
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How big is the number of furloughees that can flow back to Mesaba?
13 as of right now.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:21 PM
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Airlines all have a process in how they hire. What gets me is that the delta HR and some pilots seems to have their undies in a bunch over compass. If they are really that wound up about it, it makes me wonder. It's like when you are a new hire and they tell you that you are the best of the best and they only hire the best. Yada Yada Yada. I've heard that at every airline and all my buddies at the others say they hear the same thing.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
Airlines all have a process in how they hire. What gets me is that the delta HR and some pilots seems to have their undies in a bunch over compass. If they are really that wound up about it, it makes me wonder. It's like when you are a new hire and they tell you that you are the best of the best and they only hire the best. Yada Yada Yada. I've heard that at every airline and all my buddies at the others say they hear the same thing.
Would you ever hear it said that "we hire only the most mediocre 200 hour pilots we can find"?

I don't know who you think is against the Compass guys on this forum? I'm arguing as well as all other posters that I can find that we all want them on our list.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
Line Check Airman.

Being active in other roles means you are happy and comfortable to take on additional responsibilities and leadership roles. That plays a big deal when you consider that they are hiring future Captains not career FOs.
I was thinking Local Community Activist.

I would think that being a captain at an airline would qualify enough. Which would have more pull? Church volunteer or Kickball team Captain
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Also, compass did not offer preferential hiring to any furloughed mesaba pilot.
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