Delta Payscale For Crj900?
02-02-2009, 04:18 PM
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Compass has a larger, heavier, type that is a family of aircraft up to 122 seats that is a direct DC9 replacement.
Mesaba doesn't have a unlimited flow up / down, or representation within the Delta MEC. Mesaba does not have a training agreement.
There is also some history there. Probably best to get the story from the Mesaba MEC.
Mesaba doesn't have a unlimited flow up / down, or representation within the Delta MEC. Mesaba does not have a training agreement.
There is also some history there. Probably best to get the story from the Mesaba MEC.
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02-02-2009, 04:20 PM
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E175's. DAL *may* want to do 195/175 mix at some point. So because you have a modified flow, and possibly an aircraft DAL does not want, all of XJ should be stapled together with CPZ?
As I stated it has to with what you bring. Say hypothetically (it all is) that they want the CRJ900, what do you do with the pilots flying the Saab? This is about getting 76 seat plus flying at the mainline for mainline pilots, not about getting feeder pilots jobs at DAL.
If you come with a 76 seat plus aircraft, the more the merrier. If you don't you have no claim to a DAL seat in my book.
As I stated it has to with what you bring. Say hypothetically (it all is) that they want the CRJ900, what do you do with the pilots flying the Saab? This is about getting 76 seat plus flying at the mainline for mainline pilots, not about getting feeder pilots jobs at DAL.
If you come with a 76 seat plus aircraft, the more the merrier. If you don't you have no claim to a DAL seat in my book.
02-02-2009, 04:27 PM
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Compass has a larger, heavier, type that is a family of aircraft up to 130 seats that is a direct DC9 replacement. Mesaba doesn't have a unlimited flow up / down, or representation within the Delta MEC. Mesaba does not have a training agreement.
Mesaba does have a type that is part of a family going down to 40 seats, in operation at Comair.
It is also what Compass doesn't have. I have not read nearly as much about Compass pilots in the news.
Mesaba does have a type that is part of a family going down to 40 seats, in operation at Comair.
It is also what Compass doesn't have. I have not read nearly as much about Compass pilots in the news.
02-02-2009, 04:32 PM
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E175's. DAL *may* want to do 195/175 mix at some point. So because you have a modified flow, and possibly an aircraft DAL does not want, all of XJ should be stapled together with CPZ?
As I stated it has to with what you bring. Say hypothetically (it all is) that they want the CRJ900, what do you do with the pilots flying the Saab? This is about getting 76 seat plus flying at the mainline for mainline pilots, not about getting feeder pilots jobs at DAL.
If you come with a 76 seat plus aircraft, the more the merrier. If you don't you have no claim to a DAL seat in my book.
As I stated it has to with what you bring. Say hypothetically (it all is) that they want the CRJ900, what do you do with the pilots flying the Saab? This is about getting 76 seat plus flying at the mainline for mainline pilots, not about getting feeder pilots jobs at DAL.
If you come with a 76 seat plus aircraft, the more the merrier. If you don't you have no claim to a DAL seat in my book.
For every Compass airplane that goes to the mainline, delta can buy three more 76 seat jets to operate at another DCI carrier. You either take all the 76 seat scope or you don't take any scope.
02-02-2009, 04:34 PM
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Mesabah,
Refer to Fly4Hire's post. In addition, Mesaba burned a few bridges. It makes more sense to merge Comair and Mesaba and spin the whole lot off to SkyWest. SKYW takes pride in operating the largest fleet of the type and saving a bunch of money due to economies of scale.
... and you did not address the other issues that build a bridge to Compass. Mesaba did not want Delta pilots flowing down. They only want something that benefits them.
Refer to Fly4Hire's post. In addition, Mesaba burned a few bridges. It makes more sense to merge Comair and Mesaba and spin the whole lot off to SkyWest. SKYW takes pride in operating the largest fleet of the type and saving a bunch of money due to economies of scale.
... and you did not address the other issues that build a bridge to Compass. Mesaba did not want Delta pilots flowing down. They only want something that benefits them.
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02-02-2009, 04:39 PM
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The number of permitted aircraft above 70 seats will not change. For one thing, Delta can always just buy an E195 and put it on mainline. Nobody says the airplanes change Certificates even if the pilots do.
Also, you have a lot of mainline jets coming out of the fleet.
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02-02-2009, 04:41 PM
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I'm a CRJ 900 captain. I don't understand the argument. Are you saying 50 seat scope should not be at the mainline? Shouldn't all flying be at the mainline?
For every Compass airplane that goes to the mainline, delta can buy three more 76 seat jets to operate at another DCI carrier. You either take all the 76 seat scope or you don't take any scope.
For every Compass airplane that goes to the mainline, delta can buy three more 76 seat jets to operate at another DCI carrier. You either take all the 76 seat scope or you don't take any scope.
I don't think there is any will to go after 50 seat flying right now - then you have to deal with every DCI carrier. Limited 76 seat flying may be attainable - we have to start somewhere. CPZ and the E175/195 is the place to start.
You say there should be no difference in what 76 seat acft we bring on - but you still have not addressed the fact the DAL Inc. may not want CRJ900's.
Should DALPA risk the ability to get this done to make it inclusive for everyone?
02-02-2009, 04:45 PM
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Eventually returning all flying to mainline is a great goal. Right now we aren't even sure DALPA even wants Compass. On the D ALPA board the Captains were against the idea.
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02-02-2009, 05:31 PM
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It appears that DALPA doesn't want the 900's but the opposite seems true of DAL. Say what you will about the 900 but it burns less fuel than an E175. If DAL was so interested in the 175 then why didn't they strictly order them for their 76-seat lift needs?
02-02-2009, 05:34 PM
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Mesabah,
Refer to Fly4Hire's post. In addition, Mesaba burned a few bridges. It makes more sense to merge Comair and Mesaba and spin the whole lot off to SkyWest. SKYW takes pride in operating the largest fleet of the type and saving a bunch of money due to economies of scale.
Refer to Fly4Hire's post. In addition, Mesaba burned a few bridges. It makes more sense to merge Comair and Mesaba and spin the whole lot off to SkyWest. SKYW takes pride in operating the largest fleet of the type and saving a bunch of money due to economies of scale.
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