Delta Payscale For Crj900?
02-02-2009, 02:05 PM
#122
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Buck, as I stated. You know me and know where I stand on this issue. If all parties involved would have some accountability and the ability to look at this thing realistically, progress may be made.
Fact is that it took guts and a few other things to sue the DAL MEC. Everyone knows that this caused some deep wounds. If we are to move on everyone needs to look at the whole picture not just their portion of it.
Fact is that it took guts and a few other things to sue the DAL MEC. Everyone knows that this caused some deep wounds. If we are to move on everyone needs to look at the whole picture not just their portion of it.
What has caused most of the harm are the fact that people (even well educated people like you) get the facts mistaken. Other people with impure motives flat out lie. The result has been a deep and needless division in our union that harms our careers.
02-02-2009, 02:05 PM
#123
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There is a real cost savings to the company, they know it too. It is realized when we start hiring and the training cost at CPZ become astronomical. Taking 20% of the CA list every month will cost a ton of money. Now if those jets were on mainline this would not be an issue.
In four years when the retirements kick in, they do not stop for 20 years. It is not a short term problem for the company. The MEC is aware of this too. What we as the rank and file need to realize is that we need to use this to our advantage and not take this flow and sell it for some other "gain."
In four years when the retirements kick in, they do not stop for 20 years. It is not a short term problem for the company. The MEC is aware of this too. What we as the rank and file need to realize is that we need to use this to our advantage and not take this flow and sell it for some other "gain."
20% a month to delta??? I though it was a max of 20 a month with no more than 25% of the total compass list in a rolling 12 years. That would be 83 pilots a year if compass stayed at 332 pilots.
Maybe I'm missing something.
02-02-2009, 02:08 PM
#125
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We bought a lot of it. We bought some from NWA who bought it from Southern. We bought some from ASA. NWA has Southern pilots .... you see where this goes.
02-02-2009, 02:09 PM
#126
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The Delta MEC was never sued, where does this stuff come from? However the Delta MEC did file an action to stop Comair flying the Shuttle.
What has caused most of the harm are the fact that people (even well educated people like you) get the facts mistaken. Other people with impure motives flat out lie. The result has been a deep and needless division in our union that harms our careers.
What has caused most of the harm are the fact that people (even well educated people like you) get the facts mistaken. Other people with impure motives flat out lie. The result has been a deep and needless division in our union that harms our careers.
02-02-2009, 02:13 PM
#127
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Keep thinking positive,NuGuy. Your anti-regional pilot attitude sets the tone for your future relations with Delta feeders.
Anti-regional? He is favor of integrating CPZ!
Meanwhile the two images which come to my mind. One is the scene in the "Jurassic Park" showing a fossil of the most popular dinosaur predator, Tyrannosaurus Rex, being taken down by several smaller, but equally vicious Velociraptors. All went down together.
And the image that comes to mind with you is the one from Blazing Saddles where the guy puts his gun to his head and says stop or I'll shoot!
The other is management laughing their butts off as pilot groups fight over scraps because they can't work together in unison.
Agree with ME or you are doomed...
Good luck with your career, NuGuy. I'm sure you've got it made.
RJ Defense Coalition
http://www.rjdefense.com/2003/10_Things_About_Scope.pdf
Anti-regional? He is favor of integrating CPZ!
Meanwhile the two images which come to my mind. One is the scene in the "Jurassic Park" showing a fossil of the most popular dinosaur predator, Tyrannosaurus Rex, being taken down by several smaller, but equally vicious Velociraptors. All went down together.
And the image that comes to mind with you is the one from Blazing Saddles where the guy puts his gun to his head and says stop or I'll shoot!
The other is management laughing their butts off as pilot groups fight over scraps because they can't work together in unison.
Agree with ME or you are doomed...
Good luck with your career, NuGuy. I'm sure you've got it made.
RJ Defense Coalition
http://www.rjdefense.com/2003/10_Things_About_Scope.pdf
02-02-2009, 02:20 PM
#128
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Just so I'm getting this right. You're saying that the cost savings of in house training is what makes a staple beneficial?
02-02-2009, 02:22 PM
#129
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Buck, as you know I did not agree with RJDC from the get go. I also am not as versed on it as you are. It was something that I did not want to get involved in, even though there were perceived gains for me.
The best way INHO to protect the flying is to have it in house as much as possible
The best way INHO to protect the flying is to have it in house as much as possible
02-02-2009, 02:23 PM
#130
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No it is one of the bennies.
See it would be a constant drain on the CPZ system for the next 20 or so years. That is a lot of movement that DAL would have to pay for on both sides of the CPZ issue.
I will also tell you with out getting to specific that when DAL hired in the past they had taken from one or two airlines more than an other. Their numbers were significantly less than this and it had a huge operational impact on those airlines. To the point that some of those candidates had to be filtered in to interview process to help shore up their airlines staffing shortfalls.
See it would be a constant drain on the CPZ system for the next 20 or so years. That is a lot of movement that DAL would have to pay for on both sides of the CPZ issue.
I will also tell you with out getting to specific that when DAL hired in the past they had taken from one or two airlines more than an other. Their numbers were significantly less than this and it had a huge operational impact on those airlines. To the point that some of those candidates had to be filtered in to interview process to help shore up their airlines staffing shortfalls.
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