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Old 01-17-2009, 02:15 AM
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Hey all. Exscuse my ignorance.

I saw a 744 in DL colors in PVG last week. Looks like it was a NW jet.

Who crews them at the present. Is it still a NW flight or a Delta flight with NW crew?
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Old 01-17-2009, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy

This should be on the list for 2012. Sounds like a win/win for both pilots and management.

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I think it's "our" problem now... Let's hope we can fix it "together" in 2012.

Just 2 cents from another commuter pilot being bumped further away from home, one base at a time.
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Old 01-17-2009, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by oicur12
Hey all. Exscuse my ignorance.

I saw a 744 in DL colors in PVG last week. Looks like it was a NW jet.

Who crews them at the present. Is it still a NW flight or a Delta flight with NW crew?
Well I guess it's technically a Delta flight now.

But, it's a former NW aircraft repainted in DAL colors with a former NW crew flying it. The 74's are fenced so only former NW crews or future newhires can bid it from now until 5 years after the Single Operating Certificate is issued.
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Old 01-17-2009, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BlaineFaban
It will be interesting to see what actually happens when the full staffing of NWA is required via contract what they will do then.
Cancel vacations for starters. Just kidding ...
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Old 01-17-2009, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by oicur12
Hey all. Exscuse my ignorance.

I saw a 744 in DL colors in PVG last week. Looks like it was a NW jet.

Who crews them at the present. Is it still a NW flight or a Delta flight with NW crew?
It will be NW for some time. No one can put a definitive time frame on the single certificate and other issues. I think a lot of folks could care less about flying the whale. QOL is number 1 unless the hassle is worth the commute. Some guys commute two-thousand + miles to a captain slot.
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:00 AM
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I think he feels it's a waste moreso because of the mandatory displacements (he termed it voluntary.) The 239 pilots they needed to shuffle has led to a ridiculous number of training events with all the bumping from one catagory to another via the mandatory displacements. It does seem like a huge cost?
While most AEs (or system bids as it might be known at other airlines) do generate movement all over, this one seemed like a large amount of change. I think it's because a fair number of people off the B767 in ATL were displaced. That is a somewhat senior airplane in a senior base. Therefore, those people could displace people all over the system.

For example, someone might be commuting from the mid-west to a Captain slot in ATL, but he gets bumped and figures, why commute for a FO position - I'll bid the 767ER FO in LAX, and reduce my commute.. and it cascades.

Also, I think people are arranging themselves for the next few years as who knows what a SOC will bring. Better to be where you want now.
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BlaineFaban
The displacements are because the MD88 right seat has been short staffed for the past few months via an LOA with the company. They wanted to hire in order to fill that void, as it is the cheapest way to do so for the 88 right seat. Apparently the economy calls for stagnation, though. It will be interesting to see what actually happens when the full staffing of NWA is required via contract what they will do then.
The above is 100% correct.

This had nothing to do with "NWA" mngt. thinking as was posted on another thread.

The 88 has been short and we had to move some people around.

Big picture this made perfect sense.
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:36 AM
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Does it make sense to put NWA poolies on property (I got another month so scuse the plug...)?

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Old 01-17-2009, 05:44 AM
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I noticed that some vacancies of this AE were not filled yet.

I realize that the company can fill them anytime (as well as cut displacements) during the bid window - up to January 09.

Does anyone have any predictions on when?

Thanks

ps sorry if it was discussed on other threads - post a link if you don't mind.
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Old 01-17-2009, 06:09 AM
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They can do a clean up if they want to. But most of those will probably stay unfilled. (New hires could get them too, if we were hiring)
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