Worst Paying Major Airlines??????
01-02-2009, 10:30 AM
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I enjoyed an episode of the myth busters recently on which both Adam and Jamie got on an Airbus sim at NASA and after 20 minutes of the instructor giving them some pointers (speeds, flaps settings, pitch and power settings and how to interpret the instruments)both of the landed the sim right down the middle of the runway and no, they didn't use the automation. Now, get a call from a doctor and after 20 minutes of instruction go ahead and remove a gallbladder through an endoscopy. The comparisons are kind of silly don't you think?
01-02-2009, 11:04 AM
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I enjoyed an episode of the myth busters recently on which both Adam and Jamie got on an Airbus sim at NASA and after 20 minutes of the instructor giving them some pointers (speeds, flaps settings, pitch and power settings and how to interpret the instruments)both of the landed the sim right down the middle of the runway and no, they didn't use the automation. Now, get a call from a doctor and after 20 minutes of instruction go ahead and remove a gallbladder through an endoscopy. The comparisons are kind of silly don't you think?
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01-02-2009, 11:11 AM
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The job is easy for us because of the level we are at and the experience we have, just like Surgeons.
01-02-2009, 11:32 AM
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"Figuring out" surgery?
You'll study very intense med exams for several years before you lead a team in an operating theater.
I'm certain most Doctors would find studying for their 757 type relatively easy compared to their Med studies. I know my AME would even though he only has his private instrument.
The FAA ATP and a few weeks at Higher Power wouldn't stress him out after all he's been through!
Get real man. Airline Pilots are NOT Doctors!
Pilots ARE professionals bearing tremendous responsibility deserving of respect from airline management and the travelling public. However, you'd have to be delusional to believe Pilots=Medical Doctors.
AL
You'll study very intense med exams for several years before you lead a team in an operating theater.
I'm certain most Doctors would find studying for their 757 type relatively easy compared to their Med studies. I know my AME would even though he only has his private instrument.
The FAA ATP and a few weeks at Higher Power wouldn't stress him out after all he's been through!
Get real man. Airline Pilots are NOT Doctors!
Pilots ARE professionals bearing tremendous responsibility deserving of respect from airline management and the travelling public. However, you'd have to be delusional to believe Pilots=Medical Doctors.
AL
I respect doctors, but they don't belong on a pedestal JUST because they're a doctor. They aren't BETTER then pilots. Plenty of doctors KILL themselves flying airplanes. I don't see how since apparently it's WAAAAY easier to be a pilot.
Some people.
01-02-2009, 11:56 AM
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This argument is beyond silly. Some of us, pilots, could have become surgeons had we chose to just like some surgeons could have become pilots. We, as airline pilots, are underpayed for sure. However, we will never be valued like the surgeons in this country. This is not to demean our profession. It's a fact. It is harder to become surgeons. It takes 4 years of undergraduate degree in biology or premed and then another 4 years of intense studying at medical schools plus another 2 years of internship before you can even call yourself a surgeon.
This does not mean surgeons are necessarily smarter than we are. It just means most of us chose to become pilots because we love to fly and we were blessed by mother nature with good health and superb eyesight.
This does not mean surgeons are necessarily smarter than we are. It just means most of us chose to become pilots because we love to fly and we were blessed by mother nature with good health and superb eyesight.
01-02-2009, 12:01 PM
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There's a reason why the air accident rates among doctors are so high. Just because you can afford to buy sophisticated helicopters or airplanes does not mean you are capable of flying them. It requires a different set of skills and talents to become proficient pilots.
01-02-2009, 12:11 PM
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I think one of the reasons it takes so much to succeed in either profession is LAWYERS. Ambulance chasers have jacked up things so much that extensive training is required. Some argue that more training is required for doctors. Perhaps initially, but do doctors go to recurrent training every year? Not like pilots. They have boards that can yank their license, but so do pilots. Much of their pay is spent on Mal-pratice insurance. Thank you Lawyers, again. Extensive training is required for both professions. Doctors get theirs out of the way initially, pilot's training continues every year for their entire career.
01-02-2009, 12:15 PM
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You get real man. Doctors DONT = Pilots. You have NO IDEA if most doctors would find it easy studying for their 757 type. You don't even know if any of them would grasp aerodynamics. Different people with different personalities ACCEL at different things.
I respect doctors, but they don't belong on a pedestal JUST because they're a doctor. They aren't BETTER then pilots. Plenty of doctors KILL themselves flying airplanes. I don't see how since apparently it's WAAAAY easier to be a pilot. Some people.
I respect doctors, but they don't belong on a pedestal JUST because they're a doctor. They aren't BETTER then pilots. Plenty of doctors KILL themselves flying airplanes. I don't see how since apparently it's WAAAAY easier to be a pilot.
Some people. Grasp Aerodynamics.........................Please?
How many aerodynamics questions did you have to get your head around to get through the ATP exam.....like 6 ?
Doctors know all about pressure and gas laws. What makes you think Bernoulli's principle or the lift equation would stump a medical Doctor?
I know some who became licensed pilots in 6 weeks. I'm not sure you could even become a CNA (Certified "Nurses" Assistant) in 6 weeks.
Like I said, ATP's are educated professionals. However. they are not academically on the same level as Medical Doctors.
Don't go kidding yourself Mr.
Or, are you a Doctor of something? Should I be calling you Dr?
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01-02-2009, 12:27 PM
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One needs to remember that half the Doctors out there graduated in the bottom of their class.
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