Originally Posted by contrail67

What industry has kept up with cost of living.

Originally Posted by 757Driver

Your missing the point. The MEC's don't vote in these unnecessary concessions, the Stockholm Syndrome suffering Pilots do and with more and more L'il J. Seinfelds joining the ranks, our profession is doomed.

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

The last month I flew the 747 for a legacy I was gone 24/7 for 22 days and did that for 4 months in a row for 72 whopping hours of pay, my orthopod friends did a hell of a lot better than that. Better join Lil J' Seinfeld in the sell our selves short line.

Originally Posted by Phantom Flyer

With all due respect, I disagree. I doubt that anyone on this forum has spent the time and expended the financial resources that it takes to become a surgeon of any type. With 4 years of undergraduate, medical school, internships, residency, etc., most young doctors are looking at 10 or more years of formal training and some horrendous hours as a resident before they really start making any serious money. When one throws in just malpractice insurance alone in today's environment, that $400-500+K per year they can earn doesn't go as far as one might imagine.

I don't think most of us have spent 10+ years training to become a pilot. Yes, one may have been in the military that long and on the civilian side, worked their way up through the ranks but we didn't spend 5-7 years of formal training and besides, our profession is suffering a glut of qualified, trained individuals. Supply and demand. Yes, it will change and the pendulum will swing back but not for a l-o-n-g time.

Just my 0.000234 cents (two cents devalued to today's numbers)

G'Day Mates.

Originally Posted by Lab Rat

Before everybody starts throwing stones at L'il J. Seinfeld, one should be reminded that his airline (i.e., a box hauler) is one of the very few carriers whose pilots have received pay RAISES as opposed to CONCESSIONS.

Originally Posted by BoeingTanker

Well said!

As the son of a doctor, I fully agree with you. While we have all spent long hours learning our profession, and spend lots of time in the sims each year refining our skills, the constant changes in his specialty had my dad always learning and spending hours in the evening before performing an operation planning his actions.

Not to put down all of our skills and abilities, but to compare us to doctors. . . I don't think so. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Deez340

Counterpoint. Are you familiar with Frank William Abagnale, Jr.? He was the wildly prolific con artist on whose life the movie "Catch Me if You Can" was based. He was able to impersonate an attorney, pass the Louisiana state Bar (Nepoleaonic code. ahhhh!), act as an assistant DA, and successfully represent the State Attorney General's office in open court. He was able to impersonate a doctor, act as chief resident in a mid sized hospital, and successfully perform medical procedures. He was able to impersonate a Pan Am pilot and successfully jumpseat around the world. He was not, however, ever able to physically fly the aircraft. Food for thought.

It would seem that the world's most famous confidence man had a much easier time successfully doing your dad's job than yours. In fact he wasn't able to do yours at all.

Again, just food for thought.

Originally Posted by Futureman

I can't believe that anyone thinks flying a modern plane from A to B is more difficult than performing surgery.

Originally Posted by Futureman

I can't believe that anyone thinks flying a modern plane from A to B is more difficult than performing surgery.

Originally Posted by Rascal

And I can't believe that pilots will belittle their own profession...
How can anyone expect better pay if they keep saying how stupid their job is?