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Old 12-29-2008, 03:52 AM
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So with the companies merging, did they need to wrap it up before bumping uglies first?
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Any pictures? With all the camera cell phones around these days, someone has pictures.

Where either of these being pushed back by a tug or were both using engine thrust to back up? Is the Seatac ramp controlled?

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You seem to know everything on all other threads. So how did you miss that 757's and 737's don't powerback? I've flown them both. And i've flown the MD-80 which does powerback.
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Originally Posted by 7576FO
Jake,
You seem to know everything on all other threads. So how did you miss that 757's and 737's don't powerback? I've flown them both. And i've flown the MD-80 which does powerback.
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Some airlines restrict the use of power back. I'm still learning which ones do and which ones don't.

Why would you think I have a negative attitude? Because I don't wear rose-colored glasses? Would you prefer I went around preaching how everything's going to be okay and we'll all be 777 Captain's in a few short years?

This industry is changing. We need to adapt to our new environment or risk going the way of past airlines which have failed to do so.

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Old 12-29-2008, 12:54 PM
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Same accident... different day... different airport.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:55 PM
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The relatively smart ones that are aware of what FOD does to jet engines. Seriously, I've never seen anyone powerback their jets other than AirTran.

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Some airlines restrict the use of power back. I'm still learning which ones do and which ones don't.
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:06 PM
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Power backs on our 727 were routine.
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:12 PM
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YouTube - NorthWest DC-9 Powerback @KMSP

YouTube - DC9 PUSH BACK WITH REVERSERS
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:54 PM
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The relatively smart ones that are aware of what FOD does to jet engines. Seriously, I've never seen anyone powerback their jets other than AirTran.
AA used to do it quite a bit on the MD-80s (sorry, Super 80s). Eastern pioneered it back in the 80s when Borman was fighting with Charlie Bryan and the Machinists. I believe they did it on everything, though not sure about the 757s or L-1011s.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:17 PM
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Yeah, they FINALLY discontinued powerbacks at AA a few years ago. What a waste of fuel and energy. Half the time (on the 80) you were too heavy or on an upslope and you couldn't get the thing moving. Come out of reverse, move forward a few feet, and try again. Kinda like rocking a car stuck in snow. The pax hated it. It did a great job cleaning FOD on the ramp, though!
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:47 PM
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Eastern used to power back their 757s. CAL did it with their 727s and 737-200s. They thought about doing it with their 737-300s back in the late 80s but thought better of it at the last moment.
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