RockBottom

Picture of 737 from overhead today:

ovrtake92

Not sure how to post link to article but 9NEWS.com | Colorado's Online News Leader | Breaking News, Local News, World News and more... has some new information regarding FDR information pointing towards brake or tire lock up. A little early to tell if this is true but this would be a scary thing to happen on takeoff. Also would point some much deserved accolade to the pilots and crew that kept everybody alive.

Romulus

It was moving along very fast to go so far off the runway. Is the ground downhill from the runway? Would it slide this far on a locked brake or would blowning the tires and skidding on the rims negate a locked brake?
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withthatsaid182

nothing ****es me off more than the media speculating which then causes all the experts sitting at the airport to speculate...granted a plane went off the runway but had it not been for that flight crew there's no saying how bad it could have been...kudos to the crew who gave there all in those last few moments...if their bird went off the runway then i know it must have been a helluva problem...not just an engine failure or a crosswind...

i just listened to someone complain about paying $190 for a roundtrip flight from boston to philly...if they knew what it took for that flight to operate safely this weekend in the northeast they'd pay a lil' more...

freakin' people!

two weeks ago after declaring min fuel and having to divert a pax came up front and told us we did a terrible job and she's taking delta next time...people don't think about what it takes...it's all taken for granted...

Romulus

well said. They are taking it for granted then complain about being charged to carry extra luggage while they move.

Jake Wheeler

NTSB had a press conference 04:00Z Tues at Denver:

1. Main gear marks on runway 1,900 feet from threshold - nose gear marks at 2,000 feet.

2. About 700 feet down the runway before plane exited paving.

3. About 2,000 feet before plane came to standstill.

4. Max speed achieved: 119 kts. Last speed recorded: 89 kts.

5. CVR and FDR shut down when the aircraft became airborned crossing taxiway WC and settled back to earth with a 3g+ shock causing both recorders to stop. The main gear left the ground for around 100 feet as the plane passed over the berm north of WC.

6. Two vocalizations on CVR - set take off power and calling for rejected takeoff. CVR recorded thumps and rumbles for 41 seconds after brake release until CVR shutdown.

7. One tired had a slash mark, but this could be impact damage

8. Brakes tested okay, so brake failure is unlikely.

fdx727pilot

Does anyone know the actual X-wind limit on the 737-500. Despite Paxhauler's quote, I know our 727s are 29kt max, A310s 28kt max demoed, A300s 32kt max demoed, DC/MD10 31kt max, and MD11 35 kt max. So 36 kt of crosswind would have grounded any jet in our fleet, and 32kt would have got all but the A300s and MD11s. I guess RJs can handle more x-wind.

eaglefly

I call these people "10% ers". Our population has about 10% who are hopeless a-holes and always will be. Nothing satisfies their needs, so it's impossible to meet them. Encounters with 10%ers will happen from time to time and my procedure is to smile and silently acknowledge their ability to perfect their a-holiness to an art form. Letting them ruin your day or get under your skin serves no purpose.

So Wonwee

Very much so.

saab2000

The CRJ I now fly has a company limit of 27 knots. Some places don't have that limitation, but as a "Max Demonstrated". When I flew in Europe I was on a SAAB2000 and the book said, and I quote, "Max Demonstrated Crosswind is 45 knots, not found to be limiting". However, it is sort of the practical limit because the airplane will start to slide across the runway at 45 knots. Found that out personally. Now I know what my personal limit is. Anyway, anything up to 30 knots on that particular turboprop was a POC - Piece of Cake. Strong rudder, high wing tip and very responsive engines meant easy work in gusty crosswinds. The CRJ is another story.