Jbpa Files With Nmb
11-21-2008, 06:22 PM
#21
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My former colleagues Flight Options just laid off a bunch today. They've been in a union fight for 4 years (one that I voted for). Good luck pickin' that pepper out of the fly $hit!To what do you attribute their layoffs?
AL
11-21-2008, 07:36 PM
#22
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In my experience, that's how most people are. Most people ARE hard working, well intentioned, and care. Most firms are full of such people.
You mentioned that pay, healthcare, and retirement are questionable.
I'm just curious, what makes a company "a great company to work for" in your opinion?
AL
You mentioned that pay, healthcare, and retirement are questionable.
I'm just curious, what makes a company "a great company to work for" in your opinion?
AL
I know that I am worth much more than what I am currently compensated at. Just curious, are you in management at JB or do you actually fly for JB??
11-21-2008, 10:35 PM
#23
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Flight Options Layoff???
Hey Learflyer,
Flight Options laid off today?!?
This isn't the same group of 70 hostages is it? Please clue us in. Thanks!
In Unity,
B727DRVR
PS- I almost forgot, Congratulations to the JBPA! I would take ANY union over being an at-will employee any day. And you can work with ALPA to get their same excellent medical and legal package...
Flight Options laid off today?!?
This isn't the same group of 70 hostages is it? Please clue us in. Thanks!In Unity,
B727DRVR
PS- I almost forgot, Congratulations to the JBPA! I would take ANY union over being an at-will employee any day. And you can work with ALPA to get their same excellent medical and legal package...
11-21-2008, 10:50 PM
#24
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Hey Learflyer,
Flight Options laid off today?!? This isn't the same group of 70 hostages is it? Please clue us in. Thanks!
In Unity,
B727DRVR
PS- I almost forgot, Congratulations to the JBPA! I would take ANY union over being an at-will employee any day. And you can work with ALPA to get their same excellent medical and legal package...
Flight Options laid off today?!?
This isn't the same group of 70 hostages is it? Please clue us in. Thanks!In Unity,
B727DRVR
PS- I almost forgot, Congratulations to the JBPA! I would take ANY union over being an at-will employee any day. And you can work with ALPA to get their same excellent medical and legal package...
11-22-2008, 04:15 AM
#25
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Hey Learflyer,
Flight Options laid off today?!? This isn't the same group of 70 hostages is it? Please clue us in. Thanks!
In Unity,
B727DRVR
PS- I almost forgot, Congratulations to the JBPA! I would take ANY union over being an at-will employee any day. And you can work with ALPA to get their same excellent medical and legal package...
Flight Options laid off today?!?
This isn't the same group of 70 hostages is it? Please clue us in. Thanks!In Unity,
B727DRVR
PS- I almost forgot, Congratulations to the JBPA! I would take ANY union over being an at-will employee any day. And you can work with ALPA to get their same excellent medical and legal package...
11-22-2008, 05:37 AM
#26
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Herk,
Apparently I've given you the wrong impression.
I've seen great things achieved by unions and I've seen things get as ugly as they could get short of a chapter 7 filing.
I hear arguments all the time based on what ALPA did in the past. It's all irrelevant!
A union is only as good as its union!
As with any organization comprised of enthusiastic, educated individuals, anything is possible. Communication is one of the most important elements of any organization. Lack of effective communication is also a major weakness in most organizations including pilot groups! Unions certainly facilitate communication.
Shiny new equipment and nice people alone don't make a company great to work for. You can find that anywhere. Only $$$ will support my family and pay my bills!
It's all about the package!
AL
Apparently I've given you the wrong impression.
I've seen great things achieved by unions and I've seen things get as ugly as they could get short of a chapter 7 filing.
I hear arguments all the time based on what ALPA did in the past. It's all irrelevant!
A union is only as good as its union!
As with any organization comprised of enthusiastic, educated individuals, anything is possible. Communication is one of the most important elements of any organization. Lack of effective communication is also a major weakness in most organizations including pilot groups! Unions certainly facilitate communication.
Shiny new equipment and nice people alone don't make a company great to work for. You can find that anywhere. Only $$$ will support my family and pay my bills!
It's all about the package!
AL
Last edited by alvrb211; 11-22-2008 at 08:22 AM.
11-22-2008, 06:00 AM
#27
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What was your problem with the union again?
AL
Last edited by alvrb211; 11-22-2008 at 06:28 AM.
11-22-2008, 06:27 AM
#30
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Position: Retired 121 pilot
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What ALPA gives for meal expenses won't buy that level of cuisine. I regularly paid up to a few hundred dollars per month out of my own pocket.
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