DWN3GRN

Your right KJ, NK will not have enough time to do Backround checks and train. This airline will not be able to survive 1 week with all cancellations. All you people are dreaming if you think NK, Indigo will let this go through..

Sailor

Guys, I agree, if there is a strike, I'LL be there on the picket line with my furlough uni.
About money, we are all in the same boat, we count every penny these days.
And the SW deal, it only happens when pilots and mgmt CAN work together. We are moving away from that. We can get along with each other for crying O L.
Then again whats the worst it could happen if we do. Balls to the wall. If we go down we will take them with us, or we could just revolutionized the low cost carrier industry.
Either way we look at it still "the same turd, with different flies on it"

Left Handed

I went thru this at my last job (Mesaba). We were lucky to have a very cohesive pilot group that was willing to burn the place down rather than accept sub standard wages when the company was making money. (We ended up getting the jets anyway). We were released, and went thru the cooling off period with no success. When it came time to pull the trigger, we did nothing. The company was "so you are going to strike now, right?" and we said "oh, we'll strike, but we won't tell you when. It may be today, tomorrow, or soon but you'll never know until after the pilots walk off the planes at an outstation. Good luck trying to get them back." I think this would be a great tactic at Spirit because all of the gates are rented from other vendors, and would be charged $$ to sit at someone elses gate. When they eventually moved, they would be taken to a holding pad and charged more $$.

Also, a company can't just throw rated pilots off the street on a Sprit plane. They would have to go thru indoc, systems, procedures, etc... The FAA would have a fit if training was abreviated in any way to rush pilots to the line. And there better be enough instructors to handle the load. So for six weeks there would be only Mgmt pilots and line crossers to fly. Needless to say, ticket sales would fall catasrophically as passengers would not take the chance of not getting to their destination. I think it is safe to say the investors know a strike would cripple the company and would require a large infusion of money to get things going again.

It comes down to the question of - Does the company want to teach the pilots (who we know they could care less about) a 500 million dollar lesson (and close the doors), or do they want to push the pilots to the edge and get the max they can (with the contract) and then continue to make money year after year. Remember this is an income stream to them, and they are after all businessmen in the business of making a profit. They don't want to kill the golden goose.

Mgmt will continue to find new ways to cheap out, it is up to pilots to draw the line in the sand.

That's my 43.7 cents

captscott26

Everything you said is right on the money....I dont believe that the company would impose their C9000 on the pilot group at the end of the 30 days because it would mean an immediate strike by the pilot group, something they cannot handle financially. Make no mistake about it, Indigo will not allow this pilot group to strike, they just aren't sure if we are strong enough to do it yet......Lets prove it to them!

PokerPro

What about if the company just impose bits and pieces of the c9000 contract at a time. With how fractured the pilot group seems to be, maybe they think they can do something like this without forcing a strike by the group.

I know this was threatened by Comair when the judge imposed a contract during bankruptcy.

dudeskibro

I know the contract is obviously the big ticket item right now, but how is the March increase and May increase going to be staffed? Has anyone heard anything about a recall for May? Will we exist in May? Any thoughts?

As far as the contract, I'm guessing we'll get up to, but not including a strike. Indigo can't afford it, but they're not going to let us get off easy.

Sailor

Nothing about APR or MAY, that we know, all there is lots of fighting and arguing like 2 whorss for a handful of singles...those were the days.

captscott26

When they closed SJU and LGA it saved the company about 12 reserve lines, which is about 5%, so I'm guessing it evens out with the March increase in block hours. As for May, I have no idea. It is an increase of at least 5% May 1st, so it would appear that we would need 25-30 more pilots by then, not counting attrition of course.
I know we are still on the hunt for aircraft, so who knows when we might get some good news on that front.

Sailor

Attrition, does anyone know what it is for this year?

Kingjay

left handed, it is great to hear your perspective as you have been down this road before with success. There are alot of nay sayers out there who think that this can't possibly work. I think it can, and it has too. "the Buck stops here!!"