ALPA Vs. Spirit
#311
Funny thing. If you live in a city that Spirit doesnt fly out of you have to get your own ticket to get to FLL and get the background check done. Stupid. And pay for your own hotel I am sure.
#312
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: 320 Left soon middle
Posts: 488
Ahh, well I guess people are just supposed to read between the lines, decipher the top secret code, and automatically interpret the email. I however have only an average pilot IQ and I'm just too dumb to know any better. Just like when furloughed I was supposed to instinctively know what (manuals, ID, parking pass, etc etc) and where to return company issued items...since NO ONE ever mentioned any of those details either.
Yes, this is all sarcasm.
Yes, this is all sarcasm.
I like the encrypted messages from PO. Better than nothing. Apparently the new CP does not give a _crap about communicating a lot other than what is business. Last time PO was hinting he was a CP, now he is a DO. Before he was a pilot close to management now he is management. I would expect him to be more cryptic than before.
I am interpreting the email as a good sign. In my opinion he would have not put it into the letter if there were no recalls coming in order to prevent false hopes. He posted the email for background because if you get called back you will need to get in touch with them. That is how I interpret it. Of course you can interpret it in different ways and I may be just trying to see it a way it works for me.
If something is coming for march 1st, this is the week to hear about it. If we will not hear anything this weeks we can hope for April 1st. What a f_ing drama this whole industry. Working in an office was less stress than this and I have left that because I thought that was too much bs. What a mistake that was.
#313
My whole point was that nothing at this company seems very organized. If it were just me missing out on the details of the furlough I would think you are correct, that it was a failure on my end to receive pertinent communications. However, I was not the only one in my training class to be in the dark as to what we were supposed to do concerning company issued items. I can understand you may automatically know these things if you'd been around the company awhile. But when you were hired in May, fired in July and just spent the two months trying to get through the juggernaut of what they call training, I can see how ones mind could be more pre-occupied with more important issues.
I know friends at similar companies, when furloughed, were issued a detailed checklist of what their responsibilites were. They even got instructions on how to contact and file for unemployment in their particular state.
I don't expect to have my hand held and led by the nose during any particular process in regards to staying informed. But, I also know it's not my job to do everyone elses.
I know friends at similar companies, when furloughed, were issued a detailed checklist of what their responsibilites were. They even got instructions on how to contact and file for unemployment in their particular state.
I don't expect to have my hand held and led by the nose during any particular process in regards to staying informed. But, I also know it's not my job to do everyone elses.
#314
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 115
I feel sorry for you flyingtiger. I feel your pain about the disorganization of Spirit. My regional was 1000x more organized than Spirit. If you think the furlough was disorganized, wait till you fly the line for a while. It's everything from the gate agents who curse at the passengers, to operations at FLL. I used to try and be nice to the passengers. But they are so miserable from dealing with the ticket agents, gate agents, and all the extra fees we charge at the ticket counter. It makes them hate us, the pilots. What they don't understand is they paid 9$ for the ticket and expect 1000$ service.
My best advice, stay in the cockpit. Your life will be alot less stressful.
My best advice, stay in the cockpit. Your life will be alot less stressful.
#315
Ha! Don't feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for people who can't walk or have no money to eat!
Ultimately it is still my decision to show up (or not) at whatever job I happen to have, whether it Spirit or 7-11. It would just be nice to be part of something of which you can be proud rather than embarassed.
Ultimately it is still my decision to show up (or not) at whatever job I happen to have, whether it Spirit or 7-11. It would just be nice to be part of something of which you can be proud rather than embarassed.
#316
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 115
This is very true. This was posted along time ago. I can't remember where. Just when you think times are bad, this puts life into perspective.
YouTube - I WANT TO BE A PILOT (full length)
#317
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: A320 Left
Posts: 192
Boredw- With the last recall, from talking to a few friends who were in that group, they did offer ground transportation (or at least reembursment) to Miramar and the wizz quiz place, as well as offering a hotel if needed for the background/drug check. Though your right about finding your way to FLL or a NK station if you do not live in one.
Flyingtiger- Im with you that I recieved absolutely nothing regarding where/what to leave when furloughed. I called around Miramar and asked around the crew room and no one seemed to have any clue (but to thier defense my last reserve assigment ended almost 2 weeks before the end of July). I figured I did need to leave my manuals but I wasnt about to leave them with someone who wasnt even sure if they were supposed to have them. Ended up Fedexing them to Mirarmar after finally recieving a phone call almost 2 weeks into Aug.
Also about pride vs. embarrasment, I feel you. More than once around Ft. Lauderdale, out in public, ive overheard people talking about crummy experiences with NK. I personally think that with some organization and some emphasis on customer service, they could offer thier no-frills unless you pay for them, ULCC product, and keep people happy without spending another dime. I mean, the place Im at now doesnt even have flight attendants but in general people love us because 1) we are reliable and 2) we have good and friendly customer service
Flyingtiger- Im with you that I recieved absolutely nothing regarding where/what to leave when furloughed. I called around Miramar and asked around the crew room and no one seemed to have any clue (but to thier defense my last reserve assigment ended almost 2 weeks before the end of July). I figured I did need to leave my manuals but I wasnt about to leave them with someone who wasnt even sure if they were supposed to have them. Ended up Fedexing them to Mirarmar after finally recieving a phone call almost 2 weeks into Aug.
Also about pride vs. embarrasment, I feel you. More than once around Ft. Lauderdale, out in public, ive overheard people talking about crummy experiences with NK. I personally think that with some organization and some emphasis on customer service, they could offer thier no-frills unless you pay for them, ULCC product, and keep people happy without spending another dime. I mean, the place Im at now doesnt even have flight attendants but in general people love us because 1) we are reliable and 2) we have good and friendly customer service
#318
...wait till you fly the line for a while. It's everything from the gate agents who curse at the passengers, to operations at FLL. I used to try and be nice to the passengers. But they are so miserable from dealing with the ticket agents, gate agents, and all the extra fees we charge at the ticket counter. It makes them hate us, the pilots. What they don't understand is they paid 9$ for the ticket and expect 1000$ service.
My best advice, stay in the cockpit. Your life will be alot less stressful.
My best advice, stay in the cockpit. Your life will be alot less stressful.
First- Dont be scared to step out of the cockpit and have a friendly conversation. You may be suprised how much a pilot with a smile can alter the experience of a passenger who has been through the ringer with security, gate agents, delays, etc.
Second- This is not a Spirit Airlines problem, it is an airline problem. I have been jumpseating for a while now, and every airline I jump on, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, has their share of disgruntled passengers. I cannot tell you how many times I have been waiting to board a flight on another carrier and had a passenger approach me just to inform me they were "never flying this airline again". The problem is that there is no airline management out there that really gives a darn about their customers.
#319
I just flew Allegiant this weekend. Everyone was nice, gate agents, cust service,FA's were all super nice. The seats do not recline, and no seatback pockets to load crap in (faster turns) I guess what I'm trying to say is you can sell cheap seats without ****ing off everybody, and have pleasant people working for you. It can be done
#320
Banned
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,857
Or you can treat them like Ol' Benny. Fotr those that remember...
"Duffo Tours"
YouTube - Benny Hill - Duffo tours
"Duffo Tours"
YouTube - Benny Hill - Duffo tours
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post