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Old 09-09-2008, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stepchild
You are being too kind, much too kind. How can SX start with nearly a quarter billion in cash, great support, push Airbus to offer contract maintenance for the first time and cities jumping through hoops to be a future focus city and STILL SCREW IT UP!!!!!!!!!

I only disagree with your assesment of "inexperienced". They were plenty of brains and experience in the head shed but way too much ego and all the other stuff you said.

I just don't get it!
Inexperienced in that our CEO had zero airline CEO experience, our COO had zero airlines COO experience, our CFO had zero airline CFO experience, our DO had zero airline experience, our Chief Pilot had zero airlines Chief Pilot experience. The potential was there is just didn't work out.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 319driver
Inexperienced in that our CEO had zero airline CEO experience, our COO had zero airlines COO experience, our CFO had zero airline CFO experience, our DO had zero airline experience, our Chief Pilot had zero airlines Chief Pilot experience. The potential was there is just didn't work out.
CP Chris G. was CP at PHL with USA or were you in GSO? The rest you are correct.

They still screwed it big time!

I hope life is treating you well after SX.

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Old 09-09-2008, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 319driver
Inexperienced in that our CEO had zero airline CEO experience, our COO had zero airlines COO experience, our CFO had zero airline CFO experience, our DO had zero airline experience, our Chief Pilot had zero airlines Chief Pilot experience. The potential was there is just didn't work out.
I'm guessing since they're trying to start it up again, they didn't lose much on the first attempt? I mean having 160 mil and being gone within a year doesn't make much sense. If they actually do start it again I hope they chose a better fleet, after all they were a "regional" airline, and fix their ground ops which was a joke. I read in the end they only had a 49% on time percentage.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:48 PM
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Former Skybus operators mull low-cost airline in Cincy | eTurboNews | Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport

http://www.jaunted.com/story/2008/9/...Scouting+a+Hub

Ugh!

The good people of Ohio / NKY are already getting a double s*it sandwhich ... DAL is pulling out as well as the DHL fiasco.

I hope they don't get sold on SkybusII -- they're going to be let down.

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Old 09-23-2008, 08:22 PM
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After all the reading that I have done on SB, SBII, etc., you just finally have to realize that restarting an operation of this sort at this time is just purely a pipe dream.

I know some SB pilots....all great guys.....and it really sucks what happened to all of them. Seems like they really enjoyed working at the place and believed in the future. It is a shame that it didn't work out.

Best of luck to all of you & with that it is time to finally bury Skybus & just move on.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by doogiebarnes
Now with so many kids on the street, he should be able to rustle up some cheap labor.
What's your solution to the problem? Can you blame these "kids" that are are focused and driven that are willing to take any flying to get their flying careers on track? It's not them (including me) that's the problem, it's management!!!!

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Originally Posted by mesasurvivor
After all the reading that I have done on SB, SBII, etc., you just finally have to realize that restarting an operation of this sort at this time is just purely a pipe dream.

I know some SB pilots....all great guys.....and it really sucks what happened to all of them. Seems like they really enjoyed working at the place and believed in the future. It is a shame that it didn't work out.

Best of luck to all of you & with that it is time to finally bury Skybus & just move on.
Yeah it's a real shame to see that the bar wasn't able to descend any lower.

I'm glad to see Skybus fail because their business model of $20 airfares cheapens the entire industry. Skybus's failure is a testament to arrogant upper lever management types who think that anyone can run an airline.

That may seem a little over the top and I wouldn't wish a furlough or a layoff on anyone, but any pilot who went to Skybus for a job had it coming.
I don't mean to say they deserved it, but with the weak business model and overall managerial inexperience bankruptcy left it to more of a question of when, rather than if.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:27 AM
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319DRIVER - Way to defend. You had guts going with SKB.

Yadda, Yadda, Blah, Blah, Blah - I know these forums have tenderized the meat of the SKB subject.

Yet isn't life a passion, about being apart of something different, something innovative. All *hoboes* who take the ultra conservative route (aka an 'established' airline - I am humble, I include myself here) will be setting themselves up for ultimate failure. Happiness is doing what you love.

*Pay* (salary) is determined by Supply an Demand - People will work for less if they love the job. Police officers, teachers, millitary personnel: these people make a d-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-c-e in our lives and are paid pennies.

B727DRVR - Thanks for setting the record straight on MULCHER. It is easy to talk from a pedistal. Come down here in the dirt with me. I have nothing to loose. You have everything.

MULCHER - I know that you have worked hard, dang hard for what you have achieved. Standing up for what is right - appropriate pay - is important. I too cannot believe the paygrades out there. Yet did you not start this career starving, AND happy; knowing it was a long shot to be paid well to do this job? Don't fault anyone for taking a chance. You know not from which they came. Your comments come across as prideful - one of the seven deadly sins.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:05 AM
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This horse is dead.

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Old 09-24-2008, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
That may seem a little over the top and I wouldn't wish a furlough or a layoff on anyone, but any pilot who went to Skybus for a job had it coming.
I don't mean to say they deserved it,
But you just did! What are really trying to say?
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