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Old 08-05-2008, 03:54 PM
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Why is American the only major airline still not allowing unlimited jumpseats. My airline allows unlimited for all carriers including American, yet, we remain on a limited list. I thought we pilots are supposed to take care of one another!!!!!!!!!!!

Limited=number of "limited" jumpseaters is based on the amount of jumpseats in the cockpit.
Unlimited=speaks for itself
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:13 PM
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You ever heard the phrase: "The horse is dead"?

Good luck with that one...
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I just ran into this the other day in STL. The gate agent asked me if Delta was "unlimited" on American. After a yes, she said, "well, I better check"....whatever...so after she did what she had to do, she explained what the unlimited meant. I think limiting the jumpseat is because it costs the airline some small amount of taxes/fees/other BS surcharges paid to the airport. Similar to why AirTran was charging for the second off line J/S.
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We AA pilots are plenty embarrassed and upset about the situation, unfortunately our management will not cooperate with what the rest of the industry is doing. If it was up to me, every airline would be unlimited. Now that we are in Section 6, I wouldn't be surprised if the company exchanges unlimited jumpseats for some kind of major concession...

In the meantime, I'll keep bringing this up to our union j/s chairman's attention.

Truly sorry about the situation.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:31 AM
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Is the limited jumpseat rule also in effect on American Eagle?
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:03 AM
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This happened at STL? Did is happen at the ticket counter, if so they are AA employees. Did it happen at the gate? they are TSA employees.
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by porpilot
Why is American the only major airline still not allowing unlimited jumpseats. My airline allows unlimited for all carriers including American, yet, we remain on a limited list. I thought we pilots are supposed to take care of one another!!!!!!!!!!!

Limited=number of "limited" jumpseaters is based on the amount of jumpseats in the cockpit.
Unlimited=speaks for itself

Are you saying this policy is in effect for just your airline or is AA using this policy for all off-line folks? Interesting I've only used AA a couple of times for J/S and I've never had a problem. But it just so happens I was planning to use them today. But I may change my mind if I'm going to be stranded.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:02 PM
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A nice solution would be if all Captains at all airlines, denied all jumpseaters for about two weeks; the system would get fixed real quick with airliners stuck all over the country. Most airlines have a commuter clause so this wouldn't cause too much pain.
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:27 PM
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Good idea.

AA just got a commuter clause in 2003. It is for line holders only. Not for reserves commuting to work.

I spoke with AA Cheif on duty last night on the phone about the j/s, i'd had another issue to discuss.

Things get changed real slow at AA. No OAL jumpseat until the 1990's at AA.

We are sending e-mails and phone calls.
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Old 08-06-2008, 04:15 PM
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I commute on AA quite often and there's always several offline jumpseaters on the flight. I've never run into this "limited" jumpseat problem. The gate agents let us all on.
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