Airline 2nd Quarter Operating Results
07-23-2008, 09:28 AM
#1
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,597
Airline 2nd Quarter Operating Results
For those who are interested, here are the operating results for the six legacy carriers during the second quarter. All those 1 to 2 billion dollar losses are just accounting tricks. The only numbers that truly matters are the operating results.
Code:
American: - $284 million United: - $151 million Delta: + $137 million Continental: - $25 million Northwest: + $170 million US Air: - $101 million
07-24-2008, 05:18 AM
#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Maddog FO
Posts: 653
You guys don't count. Why? Your business model includes a key element that if the cost of operating goes up, you pass it on to the consumer. We, the airlines, run to the employees for concessions because we're not innovative enough to come up with a way to make a profit.
07-24-2008, 05:59 AM
#4
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 919
You guys don't count. Why? Your business model includes a key element that if the cost of operating goes up, you pass it on to the consumer. We, the airlines, run to the employees for concessions because we're not innovative enough to come up with a way to make a profit.
07-24-2008, 06:24 AM
#5
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 751
Southwest 2Q profit up, sales rise 11 percent
Thursday July 24, 10:15 am ET
By David Koenig, AP Business Writer
Southwest Airlines 2nd-quarter earnings up on higher revenue and gains from hedging fuel costs
DALLAS (AP) -- Southwest Airlines Co. earned a profit in the second quarter and beat Wall Street expectations by continuing to rely on financial deals that lowered its fuel costs.
Revenue increased by 11 percent, as Southwest raised fares.
But in a nod to high fuel costs and other problems facing the airline industry, growth-oriented Southwest said it might not grow at all next year.
Southwest said Thursday it earned $321 million, or 44 cents per share, up 15 percent from a year ago, when the airline earned $278 million, or 36 cents per share.
Excluding special items, Southwest said it would have earned $121 million, or 16 cents per share. That beat analysts' forecast of 12 cents per share, according to a survey by Thomson Financial.
Shares of Southwest fell 45 cents, or 2.8 percent, to $15.43 in morning trading. Other airline stocks also fell as the price of oil rose.
Dallas-based Southwest posted its 69th straight profitable quarter while many other airlines lost money, and it is mostly because of fuel hedging -- financial transactions that Southwest uses to lock in lower prices for most of its fuel.
The transactions earned $511 million in the quarter, nearly double the company's entire profit.
Despite its string of profitable quarters, Southwest is under pressure to control costs and boost sales as its fuel-hedging contracts expire over the next few years.
"We cannot stand still," Chairman and Chief Executive Gary C. Kelly said. "We must continue to make the necessary adjustments to adapt to higher jet fuel prices and restore our profit margins."
Southwest has raised fares and cut service on less-productive routes while adding flights where it can take advantage of rivals' weakness, such as in Denver.
In a concession to high fuel costs, it has also scaled back growth plans to 4 percent or less for 2008 -- other carriers are slashing U.S. capacity -- and Kelly said it might not increase capacity next year.
Revenue in the second quarter rose to $2.87 billion from $2.58 billion a year earlier.
Even with fuel hedging, Southwest was hit by soaring energy costs. It paid an average $2.19 per gallon for jet fuel, but the going price on spot markets last week was nearly $4 per gallon. By comparison, American Airlines, with a much smaller fuel-hedging program, paid an average of $3.17 per gallon in the second quarter.
Southwest has hedged about 80 percent of its third-quarter fuel needs, down from 90 percent a year ago. The coverage falls to 70 percent next year, 40 percent in 2010 and 20 percent in 2011 and 2012 -- with steadily rising prices as well.
Thursday July 24, 10:15 am ET
By David Koenig, AP Business Writer
Southwest Airlines 2nd-quarter earnings up on higher revenue and gains from hedging fuel costs
DALLAS (AP) -- Southwest Airlines Co. earned a profit in the second quarter and beat Wall Street expectations by continuing to rely on financial deals that lowered its fuel costs.
Revenue increased by 11 percent, as Southwest raised fares.
But in a nod to high fuel costs and other problems facing the airline industry, growth-oriented Southwest said it might not grow at all next year.
Southwest said Thursday it earned $321 million, or 44 cents per share, up 15 percent from a year ago, when the airline earned $278 million, or 36 cents per share.
Excluding special items, Southwest said it would have earned $121 million, or 16 cents per share. That beat analysts' forecast of 12 cents per share, according to a survey by Thomson Financial.
Shares of Southwest fell 45 cents, or 2.8 percent, to $15.43 in morning trading. Other airline stocks also fell as the price of oil rose.
Dallas-based Southwest posted its 69th straight profitable quarter while many other airlines lost money, and it is mostly because of fuel hedging -- financial transactions that Southwest uses to lock in lower prices for most of its fuel.
The transactions earned $511 million in the quarter, nearly double the company's entire profit.
Despite its string of profitable quarters, Southwest is under pressure to control costs and boost sales as its fuel-hedging contracts expire over the next few years.
"We cannot stand still," Chairman and Chief Executive Gary C. Kelly said. "We must continue to make the necessary adjustments to adapt to higher jet fuel prices and restore our profit margins."
Southwest has raised fares and cut service on less-productive routes while adding flights where it can take advantage of rivals' weakness, such as in Denver.
In a concession to high fuel costs, it has also scaled back growth plans to 4 percent or less for 2008 -- other carriers are slashing U.S. capacity -- and Kelly said it might not increase capacity next year.
Revenue in the second quarter rose to $2.87 billion from $2.58 billion a year earlier.
Even with fuel hedging, Southwest was hit by soaring energy costs. It paid an average $2.19 per gallon for jet fuel, but the going price on spot markets last week was nearly $4 per gallon. By comparison, American Airlines, with a much smaller fuel-hedging program, paid an average of $3.17 per gallon in the second quarter.
Southwest has hedged about 80 percent of its third-quarter fuel needs, down from 90 percent a year ago. The coverage falls to 70 percent next year, 40 percent in 2010 and 20 percent in 2011 and 2012 -- with steadily rising prices as well.
07-24-2008, 07:15 AM
#6
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 903
As it should be! Being a pro-business type I really would rather take from my employees and create bitterness, than inconvenience my valued customers by charging them enough to cover the cost of operation plus a small amount for profit. If I were to charge them even the cost of transporting them many wouldn't be able to afford to fly and would be forced to go back to riding Greyhound! We wouldn't want that would we???
But yes - we wouldn't want to tell our customers that flying isn't a god given American right now would we?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
