Northwest SJ Details
03-09-2006, 01:49 PM
#21
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Joined APC: Aug 2005
Position: Retired 121 pilot
Posts: 1,033
Originally Posted by FlyByWire
I think your MEC did as good as they could do under the conditions of the industry. Hey you still have a pension. Hope we can keep that at Delta, and for those at JetBlue, PENSION is a check you get monthly after you stop working. It helps you enjoy life a little better.
I was also told there is an early out program that will help reduce the number of furloughs, plus are you guys still getting that nice order of B-787!
I was also told there is an early out program that will help reduce the number of furloughs, plus are you guys still getting that nice order of B-787!
Fireman0174
03-10-2006, 08:28 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Right Seat 744
Posts: 946
Me, if I'm furloughed, I'll have a 2 -3 month vacation. One thing I have'nt seen yet mentioned is that anyone trained (Cpt and F/O) on the RJ's will be type rated. If you leave SJ (or whatever the name is) before 12 months of service, YOU MUST REPAY THE COST OF THE TYPE RATING!
*^&%#$@! way in hell!
*^&%#$@! way in hell!
03-11-2006, 07:30 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by duffrick
All I can say is that we were able to hold onto most of the scope that was in place prior to NWA's 1113(c) filing. Furthermore, even though the pay for the larger airplanes is not nearly as good as it should be (compare with AA, CAL and SWA), it is still better than UA and US/AWA. Our negotiators appear to have done one hell of a good job considering the circumstances this airline and industry is in.
Any chance I can mail in my "No" vote for you?
"Our negotiators have done one hell of a good job", you say. What a buffoon.
03-11-2006, 07:34 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by duffrick
Where do you honestly think we could have done better? Thanks to this TA, I won't get furloughed. It is better than being on the street.
Lets hope there's never a strike at NWA or you'll have Duffrick and his buddies leaping across the picket line.
(PS, I know several NWA guys who will be voting "No" on this so I'm only directing this at Duffrick, not the others on here who will obviously reject this Piece of Sh!t)
Last edited by 757Driver; 03-11-2006 at 07:38 AM.
03-11-2006, 02:42 PM
#26
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I bet this will pass with at least by 75%.
As usual, the the loud screamers and whiners end up on the forums venting or "I am voting no", but in the end most TA's get approved, becuase it was the best their union could do short of shutting it down. If they ended up shutting it down then they will complain about that, or how much worst it is now that they have no job. You hear all the bravado in here, but in the end this will pass.
Unless you stupid enough to think that they can go back and tell the judge and say "excuse me, we want more money", and all of a sudden they say "sure here it is".
I am willing to say that most that are talking about vote no, either do not work at NWA, or are furloughed from NWA, or if your about to get furloughed. Most of the guys in the middle of the pile, and the guys at the top of the pile will approve it and that alone is more than 50%.
Yes it is a stinker, but this company is in chapter 11, did anybody actually think they would improve their situation in bankruptcy? They will live to fight another day.
As usual, the the loud screamers and whiners end up on the forums venting or "I am voting no", but in the end most TA's get approved, becuase it was the best their union could do short of shutting it down. If they ended up shutting it down then they will complain about that, or how much worst it is now that they have no job. You hear all the bravado in here, but in the end this will pass.
Unless you stupid enough to think that they can go back and tell the judge and say "excuse me, we want more money", and all of a sudden they say "sure here it is".
I am willing to say that most that are talking about vote no, either do not work at NWA, or are furloughed from NWA, or if your about to get furloughed. Most of the guys in the middle of the pile, and the guys at the top of the pile will approve it and that alone is more than 50%.
Yes it is a stinker, but this company is in chapter 11, did anybody actually think they would improve their situation in bankruptcy? They will live to fight another day.
Last edited by FlyByWire; 03-11-2006 at 02:45 PM.
03-11-2006, 09:01 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by FlyByWire
As usual, the the loud screamers and whiners end up on the forums venting or "I am voting no", but in the end most TA's get approved, becuase it was the best their union could do short of shutting it down
And your wrong about the no voters. There out there and you'll see them soon.
03-12-2006, 05:05 AM
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757driver
"And your wrong about the no voters. There out there and you'll see them soon."
crewdawg52
"Any takers on a bet that the MSP guys pass the TA by at least 3 to 1?"
757driver
"Great, another Pilot that just wants to "give-up" and take what management gives him. Might as well pay them to work there, right FlyBy."
Wrong again 757driver, these guys are taking the best that their union could get them, not what the company offered., are you paying attention at all, or are you saying their union is a sell out, and the pilots should just close the company down, so that the airline you work for can prosper? I would respect that honest approach better than the hidden agenda you display so eagerly. If I recall NWA held the line the longest on scope unlike most other carriers, I just hope we can do as well when April comes around.
FlyByWire
"I bet it will pass by at least 75%."
"And your wrong about the no voters. There out there and you'll see them soon."
crewdawg52
"Any takers on a bet that the MSP guys pass the TA by at least 3 to 1?"
757driver
"Great, another Pilot that just wants to "give-up" and take what management gives him. Might as well pay them to work there, right FlyBy."
Wrong again 757driver, these guys are taking the best that their union could get them, not what the company offered., are you paying attention at all, or are you saying their union is a sell out, and the pilots should just close the company down, so that the airline you work for can prosper? I would respect that honest approach better than the hidden agenda you display so eagerly. If I recall NWA held the line the longest on scope unlike most other carriers, I just hope we can do as well when April comes around.
FlyByWire
"I bet it will pass by at least 75%."
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