Jumpseat Denial (This could get interesting)
07-02-2008, 06:00 AM
#51
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,002
sorry... but to regain unity in this profession we need one voice representing "US" ie: out profession. Now although ALPA has fumbled the ball time and time again, that fact does not take away from the basic logic.
I remember trying to jumpseat on Eastern but did not have an ALPA card , so I was denied (and ****ed). But...looking at the BIG PICTURE, we all need to belong to ONE / Same union: and this is just a starting point. don't like it? then ride on someone else or buy a ticket OR>> maybe even join our brother union members. Jet Blue's management is only willing to pay "competetive" wages negotiated by others dues monies.
The truth is we need unity , so when do we start?
Reino.................out!
I remember trying to jumpseat on Eastern but did not have an ALPA card , so I was denied (and ****ed). But...looking at the BIG PICTURE, we all need to belong to ONE / Same union: and this is just a starting point. don't like it? then ride on someone else or buy a ticket OR>> maybe even join our brother union members. Jet Blue's management is only willing to pay "competetive" wages negotiated by others dues monies.
The truth is we need unity , so when do we start?
Reino.................out!
07-02-2008, 08:08 AM
#52
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Eagle FO, ERJ
Posts: 85
In a way, I think, CASS and unlimited OAL jumpseating do have a negative effect on pilot compensation and the profession. I mean, I love the privilege and wouldn't want to give it up, personally. But if it was not possible to commute, airlines would have to offer a lot more to attract enough pilots to the locations they operated. The option of commuting opens up a lot larger work force for them to choose from. Anyway, I'm not saying it would be a good thing to get rid of jumpseating, just objectively pointing out that in a way we do pay for those rides.
07-02-2008, 12:59 PM
#53
Gets all holidays off
Joined APC: Feb 2005
Position: Retired UPS 767 Captain, SDF Z
Posts: 431
Of Course you do understand that there would be no jumpseat at all today without ALPA and all the work they put in after 11 Sept to get the jumpseat restored. It took a lot of people working very hard and a lot of money to get it back and get Cass up and running. Everytime you ride a jumpseat now you should say thank you ALPA.
Feb 2003 IPA FlightTimes:
Greg Schoettmer, UPS Assistant Chief Pilot has
been the project manager for the ATA's group, in
charge of spearheading the Cockpit Access Security
System, (CASS). Cpt Schoettmer brought us a shortened
PowerPoint presentation of C.A.S.S., similar to
the one T.S.A was presented in December. This system
which combines each airlines own security and
Human Resources existing database, will be used to
verify off-line pilots identity for jumpseat purposes.
Working with Greg, Continentals' Don Johnson (not
the actor) presented a slide presentation, as
well as a "live" verification approval. UPS,
CAL, AAL, and SWA have been the guinea
pigs throughout this creation, and our 4 systems
are ready for activation, when we get the
TSA's go-ahead, which should not be long,
according to Cpt Schoettmer. When the
ATA group met with Tom Blank, the Associate Under Secretary
for Security Regulations & Policy, they were given an extremely
positive reaction. The 25 ATA airlines will be the first ones on
board, as their databases become ready for use. The others will
follow. Thanks again for Greg and Don for the time spent with
us at the meeting, as well as countless hours on gathering
information and making a verification program which can work!
Thank you CAPA! and ALPA, and everyone else who spent so much time and effort getting a great program into place!
The Coalition of Airline Pilots Association
Last edited by fr8rcaptain; 07-02-2008 at 01:24 PM. Reason: Found the article!
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