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Old 02-28-2006, 03:07 PM
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Does any one know any information for European pay scales? Just looking at the big ones, British Airways, Air France, Lufthansa, Virgin Atlantic, Ryan and so on. I tried searching on the net, but cam up empty.

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Ryan Air:
Captains
Up to £100,000
Up to €130,000
(about $175,000 US)

First Officers (1,500 hrs)
Up to £70,000
Up to €80,000
(about $123,000 US)

At Ryanair there are no seniority lists and there are no complicated salary scales, you can expect to reach these amounts in 3 – 5 years, with more if you take on a line training role.


Easy Jet:

Basic Salary

Captain £66,938
Captain £60,244 (1st 6 months)
Senior First Officers £40,584
Senior First Officers £36,526 (1st 6 months)
First Officer (frozen ATPL) £33,060
First Officer (frozen ATPL) £29,754 (1st 6 months)


Training Captains' Pay

Line Training Captains £75,305 (12.5% on basic salary)
Type Rating Instructors £76,979 (15% on basic salary)
Type Rating Examiners £78,652 (17.5% on basic salary)
Airborne Base Instructors £80,326 (20% on basic salary





Hope this helps a bit.
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Linebacker35,

That helps, Thanks. Ryan makes good due, but they probably get taxed like no other.

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This site: www.ppjn.com has a lot of EU payscales along with many other companies around the world. This site can tell you about working for those companies: www.pprune.com
 
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Originally Posted by Linebacker35
Ryan Air:
Captains
Up to £100,000
Up to €130,000
(about $175,000 US)

First Officers (1,500 hrs)
Up to £70,000
Up to €80,000
(about $123,000 US)

At Ryanair there are no seniority lists and there are no complicated salary scales, you can expect to reach these amounts in 3 – 5 years, with more if you take on a line training role.


Easy Jet:

Basic Salary

Captain £66,938
Captain £60,244 (1st 6 months)
Senior First Officers £40,584
Senior First Officers £36,526 (1st 6 months)
First Officer (frozen ATPL) £33,060
First Officer (frozen ATPL) £29,754 (1st 6 months)


Training Captains' Pay

Line Training Captains £75,305 (12.5% on basic salary)
Type Rating Instructors £76,979 (15% on basic salary)
Type Rating Examiners £78,652 (17.5% on basic salary)
Airborne Base Instructors £80,326 (20% on basic salary

Hope this helps a bit.
I can't quote Easy Jets pay but at Ryanair, if you are American, you will be contracted by Brookfield Aviation. Your first year's pay will be at an hourly rate of 115 Euros per block hour flown. Brookfield will withold 4.50 Euros to cover recurrent simulator training. If you fly from a base other than your assigned base there is a 20 Euro per hour override paid. Therefore without TDY basing you will earn about 120,000 US per year.
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Originally Posted by Dizel8
This site: www.ppjn.com has a lot of EU payscales along with many other companies around the world. This site can tell you about working for those companies: www.pprune.com
Looking at KLM on the web site they make a sh#t load compare to other European airlines.

Capt top 216,000 Euros
Capt base 125,000 Euros
FO top 162,000 Euros
FO base 38000 Euros


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WOW 216,000 euros! thats about $260,000 US
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Originally Posted by Linebacker35
WOW 216,000 euros! thats about $260,000 US
Cost of living in Europe is quite a bit higher than in the US........................

Rent for a small Humble flat in London or Paris can easily reach $4000 USD.
Taxes are higher too.
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Folks,

After spending many years of my life in Europe..a couple of things.

1. As mentioned before....very expensive to live there
2. In the UK...over 40K you are taxed at 40%
3. Converting your FAA ATP to theirs is expensive, time consuming and generally a pain in the A*&&.

Can it be done...of course, but so can putting a man on the moon :-)
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Yes it can be a pain in the A*$$ as mentioned before.

You have to take the JAA medical which will cost about $750 US for the first medical. The subsequent medicals are comparable to that of the FAA medical. There is talk that the first class medical may be an annual event starting this September rather than every 6 months. Depending on your flying experience and total hours of PIC on transport category aircraft, you may have to take all 14 exams at a cost of $100 per exam. The CAA may reduce this to 2 exams which is the JAR Law and Operations exams. The distance course, which is a series of prep books and CD, will cost about $2,400 US. The cost obtaining a JAR certificate will cost about $250 every six months until you complete all of the required exams the CAA requires. I am using the CAA as an example. Each country varies as to what their requirement may be. The period from the time you initiate and complete the certificate conversion is the validation process. You will be required to keep your FAA certificate and medical current until this process is completed.

As far as taxes, talk to your accountant as to how you can be exempt from paying taxes over here. But in doing so you may be on your own as far as retirement and medical benefits go. You can purchase medical insurance in the US that will provide full coverage in most countries in Europe. I am sure this would apply in Asia as well. But you would also need to talk to an insurance broker or company regarding this subject as well.

With the prospects in the US being what they are, flying overseas is the best game in town. It’s not a bad way to see the world and experience different cultures and life styles too.

You can find some pretty affordable housing in Spain and Portugal. The UK, France, and Netherlands are probably the most expensive countries in Europe to live in.

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