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Old 05-22-2008, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cork32
I'm in the bottom 200 so will be furloughed if it happens, I'm just not going to lose sleep over losing a $25000/year, non health insurance providing job. Don't get me wrong, I like the job (the flying not the pay), the people I've worked with, and the company for that matter, and I want to stay and see it get better. I'm just not going to jump when management says, "Boo!"
I like the way you think. I've been here two years, enjoy the job for the most part. I don't enjoy it enough to stick around for what management wants us to do it for. When I see management taking pay raises, additions being made to IAH terminal (600 million paid by CAL), and 250 million being dropped in one quarter for landing slots I'm not extremely worried. I know fuel is a problem, but why should I pay for it, I already have to pay for the drive to work why should I pay for someone to fly from EWR to FLL. I know some of the above is a long term investment, but I also believe employees are an extremely important long term investment.
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Amen, brother. Vote 'NO' no matter what threat of the big "F" they throw at us. You and I are perfectly capable of picking up a damn hammer and doubling our pay. I'll take my chances with that until they produce something worth coming to work for. Sad.
SHACK!!! Plumbers out there making $90 an hour to unclog turds from toilets. I think I have the mental capacity to do it. I am in 3rd year pay and still could make more at many other jobs. Never be afraid to go back to "work" for a living. If you are, it makes you weak and suceptable (sp?) to threats from the execs. Stand tall boys!!
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LifeNtheFstLne
Amen, brother. Vote 'NO' no matter what threat of the big "F" they throw at us. You and I are perfectly capable of picking up a damn hammer and doubling our pay. I'll take my chances with that until they produce something worth coming to work for. Sad.
I'm right there with you guys. I love the flying, I think the company has great potential. But the bottom line is that it's pretty easy to "give up" a $30k / year job that has no healthcare.

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Old 05-22-2008, 03:24 PM
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Ther power of fear is a great thing...management knows it! All of the new guys at CAL 1998-2008 need to stick together and ride out the storm for the pay and benefits we deserve. My 2 cents :-)
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Legacypilot
Ther power of fear is a great thing...management knows it! All of the new guys at CAL 1998-2008 need to stick together and ride out the storm for the pay and benefits we deserve. My 2 cents :-)
I'm with you!
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Legacypilot
Ther power of fear is a great thing...management knows it! All of the new guys at CAL 1998-2008 need to stick together and ride out the storm for the pay and benefits we deserve. My 2 cents :-)

Why not include the rest of us as well?
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Why not include the rest of us as well?
You're in! I have to tell you though. At IAH, I don't find many Captains that are willing to stick their necks out very far. Most of them driving 90,000 dollar cars and ex wives, blah blah blah. Pictures of the cars and boats with them (none of their kids' pics). These guys can't last 5 days without a paycheck. That puts them in a very vulnerable situation. Look at how many are flying past 60 even though they lose a butt load off there lump sum every year they go past. This proves they would do the job for 125000 a year. If that were the long term goal, I would have never gone into flying. The good thing is '98 and on hires almost outnumber all of the rest. Guess what....we can out vote them now!! Time for some substantial pay raises.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:36 PM
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Everyone at Cal is in! We all need to stick together! Hopefully old and new alike have learned the lessons of the past. To be fair most of the older capt's I fly with know how much a screw job the current contract is...lets stick together and change it!
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:49 PM
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When do we get to find out the details of the economic opener, as in actual numbers? Or is that not until voting time? I've been trying to follow the timeline, but it's been very dynamic as of late.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:57 PM
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Everytime we fly with a union guy...remind them that they work for us. US Air proved that a unions can be voted out. My point...keep us informed and let us vote on our future!
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