CAL Reduction Bid
05-29-2008, 01:20 PM
#101
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So the question is - if the company "expects" 200 age 60ish guys to leave, is the number of 200 furloughs we've been hearing about in addition to that number, for a total of 400 or so??? That would match better to the net parking of 50 or so airplanes that also seems to be kicking around, i.e., all the 300's.
05-29-2008, 02:51 PM
#103
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Position: B737 Captain
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Just wondering aloud, but since we are in negotiations, the furlough leverage only threatens the bottom half of the list, could they,(management), use the "A" plan as some sort of leverage..........say, for scope relaxaton??? Does a company have to be in bankruptcy to de-value the A plan in any way? I know a furlough affects the whole airline.....but the company is always looking for leverage.......that, I'm sure of. 
My understanding is that only a bankruptcy judge can dissolve the defined benefit plan (A plan). It can be modified (ie. frozen, removal of the lump sum) but not dissolved.
05-29-2008, 03:58 PM
#104
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Best answer I have seen Otto but what the same mill is propagating is the retirementsand COLAs should cover the 200 pilot surplus by this Fall. Training is still telling the pool guys that they are to train this Fall or by the New Year. Just passing the trash here....
05-29-2008, 10:52 PM
#107
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Position: 737 FO, C-130J EP
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In the meantime, we need to stay strong and not by into the culture of fear "they" are trying to create.
05-30-2008, 05:07 AM
#108
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 255
I've had similar conversations and have the same sense that a number of them are preparing to leave. In fact, after five months of my seniority number moving up only 5 or 6 a month since age 65 passed, this month it moved up 25 numbers.
So the question is - if the company "expects" 200 age 60ish guys to leave, is the number of 200 furloughs we've been hearing about in addition to that number, for a total of 400 or so??? That would match better to the net parking of 50 or so airplanes that also seems to be kicking around, i.e., all the 300's.
So the question is - if the company "expects" 200 age 60ish guys to leave, is the number of 200 furloughs we've been hearing about in addition to that number, for a total of 400 or so??? That would match better to the net parking of 50 or so airplanes that also seems to be kicking around, i.e., all the 300's.
So as Ottopilot said until the company comes out and says anything than it's just a rumor and we keep going and working on an industry leading contract.
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