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Old 04-01-2008, 07:27 PM
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C 57 UPDATE April 1, 2008


By now, most of you have heard that Aloha Airlines has ceased passenger flight operations. We are saddened by the loss of Aloha and our compassion reaches out to their 3,500 employees on the Islands and the mainland.

Currently Aloha pilots are authorized cockpit jump seats via cass. We are in discussions with flight operations to extend the period that Aloha pilots will be authorized OMC privileges. The company is not opposed to the extension and you will be updated in the next few days.

You may have read that GO! Airlines (Mesa) intends to double the number of inter-island flights from now to April 10th. This will require a significant movement of crews for Mesa.

As a reminder to all United pilots, the use of our cockpit jumpseats for offline carriers to position crews is NEVER authorized. If you feel that an offline pilot may be positioning him or herself, as required by their company, you are to deny these pilots the right to OMC.

Please report any suspicious use of OMC by offline carriers to your council officers and the UAL MEC Jumpseat Committee via JSAP report.


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Old 04-01-2008, 07:35 PM
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With the way Mesa murdered Aloha Airlines in cold blood, I don't see any of them deserving a jumpseat or OMC on any flight for any reason.

Mesa has sunk as low as GoJet, in my view.
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No joke, Mesa will likely attempt to reposition newbies via the JS. Hopefully the CA's know better. Kudos to UAL for putting out the word.
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Exactly. Mesa is so cheap that they wont pay to deadhead crews to Hawaii, they expect them to jumpseat across the Pacific in order to change bases. Ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by chitownpilot
With the way Mesa murdered Aloha Airlines in cold blood, I don't see any of them deserving a jumpseat or OMC on any flight for any reason.

Mesa has sunk as low as GoJet, in my view.
Those of us mainlanders don't deserve that kind of treatment. Understand that if we didn't fly there, we don't support that operation.

No one has been Jr. assigned to fly out of there, all there are there b/c they bid it on their own free will.

I hope that you won't attempt to deny your jumpseat to Mesa guys b/c of JO and roughly 50 pilots of our 1500. I for one commute to IAD.

I apologize on behalf of the company, but unfourtunately that's worth nothing to just about everyone.
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:09 AM
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I guess if the company says your base it HNL, then you are intitled to ask for the jumpseat. If your base was PHX, you got no business jumpseating to HNL on company business. Do you think Mesa has ever asked a non-HNL based pilot to jumpseat to Hawaii?
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:29 AM
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The jumpseat is not a weapon. No need to deny any Mesa jumpseater a seat in the domestic US, which is where this could escalate.
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Andy,

I completely disagree with you this because go! is a major contributing factor in the demise of Aloha. Ornstein then has the balls to rely on other airline jumpseats to get his pilots in place instead of paying for tickets. I don't think so.

This dirtbag has created his own black hole and not one single airline should help him out of it.
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Go is Mesa, Mesa is Go. J.O. is Mesa, Mesa is J.O.
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Andy,

I completely disagree with you this because go! is a major contributing factor in the demise of Aloha. Ornstein then has the balls to rely on other airline jumpseats to get his pilots in place instead of paying for tickets. I don't think so.

This dirtbag has created his own black hole and not one single airline should help him out of it.
So you think it's kosher to deny paxhauler85 the jumpseat to IAD?
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