United New-Hire Severely Beaten in Training
03-17-2008, 06:53 PM
#11
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It happend to a Colgan guy in St. Louis a few years ago as well.
03-17-2008, 07:03 PM
#12
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I'm all about joking around, but that's a pretty cheap shot and extremely sophmoric. The poor kid was beaten and I can assure you that if that circumstance happened at CAL training, CAL would certainly take care of him - insurance benefits or not.
Insurance benefits for the first six months - CAL 0 / UAL 1
Being at an airline with documented growth, new airplanes over the next few years, making money AS OPPOSED to bleeding money profusely, Forbes #1 airline the past 5 years straight, semi-decent quality customer service, and better pay rates (not that either are great) - CAL 1 / UAL 0
I'll take the second bullet anyday.
Insurance benefits for the first six months - CAL 0 / UAL 1
Being at an airline with documented growth, new airplanes over the next few years, making money AS OPPOSED to bleeding money profusely, Forbes #1 airline the past 5 years straight, semi-decent quality customer service, and better pay rates (not that either are great) - CAL 1 / UAL 0
I'll take the second bullet anyday.
03-17-2008, 07:15 PM
#13
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Buddy of mine from DAL said that he was robbed with his girlfriend and their parents at gunpoint in St. Louis when he was at Trans States. I think we can all agree that the neighborhoods around most major metropolitan airports are shady. Million dollars homes are not taking in the constant jet noise with a few exceptions of course. Take the shuttle back to the hotel if you can. Crashpadders be careful. Bribe the shuttle driver if your pad is close enough or just cab-it. Makes me want to go to the FFDO program and cap a few punks. If word on the street was that some pilots are packin then they may leave all alone.
03-17-2008, 07:38 PM
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"On Thursday evening, one of our new hire pilots was brutally assaulted by three men..."
It was probably Tilton and two buddies...
It was probably Tilton and two buddies...
03-17-2008, 08:07 PM
#16
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I can think we all agree that safety on layovers is a concern.
Be aware of your surroundings, be safe.
This assault happened in front of crew hotel that several large airlines use. It's not just a UAL threat.
Be aware of your surroundings, be safe.
This assault happened in front of crew hotel that several large airlines use. It's not just a UAL threat.
03-17-2008, 08:35 PM
#17
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Correct. It is regularly used for crew overnights. It is closer (than downtown Denver) to the airport.
03-17-2008, 08:49 PM
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The area around the DAL training center is no better! Many attempted robberies, assaults, muggings, etc...
03-17-2008, 10:06 PM
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I'm all about joking around, but that's a pretty cheap shot and extremely sophmoric. The poor kid was beaten and I can assure you that if that circumstance happened at CAL training, CAL would certainly take care of him - insurance benefits or not.
Insurance benefits for the first six months - CAL 0 / UAL 1
Being at an airline with documented growth, new airplanes over the next few years, making money AS OPPOSED to bleeding money profusely, Forbes #1 airline the past 5 years straight, semi-decent quality customer service, and better pay rates (not that either are great) - CAL 1 / UAL 0
I'll take the second bullet anyday.
Insurance benefits for the first six months - CAL 0 / UAL 1
Being at an airline with documented growth, new airplanes over the next few years, making money AS OPPOSED to bleeding money profusely, Forbes #1 airline the past 5 years straight, semi-decent quality customer service, and better pay rates (not that either are great) - CAL 1 / UAL 0
I'll take the second bullet anyday.
As far as CAL taking care of him, who knows? It's no secret that (insert specific airline) crew members have slipped while getting off a hotel van (or something similar) and the company didn't consider it an OJI. What would make you think that CAL would take care of him if it didn't happen while he was ACTUALLY at the training center or serving in some other job specific task?
03-17-2008, 10:17 PM
#20
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The sad part is, it's actually better than what it used to be. Right before Stapleton closed a friend of my Dad's was leaving the employee lot. It used to be just north of the TK before they expanded it. Anyway, he heads toward Quebec and three "youths" in a car ran a red light and T-boned his car. He was pretty stunned from the impact. To top it off, the three "youths" got out of the car and proceeded to beat the crap out of him, then drove off. Bad enough that he had to have his jaw wired.
It was also pretty common to have "youths" throwing rocks at the TK windows at night. When I was a kid, my dad showed me some bullet holes that had been left there one night. Who knows, maybe there were left over from the strike.
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