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Old 03-12-2008, 09:27 AM
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Would either of you reccommend this over int.'l flying at NJI in the GIV/V/550?
That is hard to say. I don't know what flying a GV at NJI is like...though I would guess pretty sweet. The two are such radically different animals that it is hard to compare.

How long do you think it would take for a new hire to even look at the possibility of getting reserve on the 777-200LR?
If we convert our upcoming options to firm deliveries, then perhaps only a couple or three years. If not, then maybe not for 8-10.


Also, are you saying that there are a lot who are not moving to captain simply to keep a good schedule and a fair amount of time at home?
That is exactly what I am saying. For some, seniority is a seductive thing that trumps which seat you sit in or the size of your paycheck. Also, while it is not nearly as common as it used to be, some very senior FOs can/used to be able to take advantage of all sorts of contractual goodies and actually make more money than many captains.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:30 AM
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Would either of you recommend this over int.'l flying at NJI in the GIV/V/550?
If you have the Gulfstream time and ratings--and know someone who can get you hired at NJI--it would be a no-brainer.

If you don't have those qualifications...it could be quite a challenge to get them. I know several guys with all of the above but still can't get a call.
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
Tomcat, do you mind if I ask your date of hire? What where will you bid on the 737? Thanks.
10 Jul 2000. I'm going from the LAX 767B to LAX 73NB. I'm projected to be #8 in catagory. I'd like to do mostly turns, but it looks like they are getting rid of ACA. I'll do some weekday turns to PVR and pick up an occasional 3-4 day---no red-eyes

PM me if you have any questions. Where are you?

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Old 03-12-2008, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by joshua
Thanks for your response. It's not really about the money, it is just something I would be interested in doing. I do live near ATL, however, and I think there are a good many international flights that leave out of there. What year were you hired, if you don't mind me asking?
Jul 2000 - how about you?
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spliff
If you have the Gulfstream time and ratings--and know someone who can get you hired at NJI--it would be a no-brainer.

If you don't have those qualifications...it could be quite a challenge to get them. I know several guys with all of the above but still can't get a call.
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Not sure this is the case anymore. Maybe some of the EJI guys can explain it better, but I think they are not hiring into the Gulfstreams anymore - you have to work your way up the seniority list. If this is in fact the case he could be a 777 Co-pilot sooner. I have a friend who is a Co-pilot on the G-5 and his upgrade prospects don't look so good.
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by joshua
How long do you think it would take for a new hire to even look at the possibility of getting reserve on the 777-200LR? Also, are you saying that there are a lot who are not moving to captain simply to keep a good schedule and a fair amount of time at home?

I think it will take at least a couple of years to hold the 777. And that will be the bottom on the category in NYC. Also, there is no seperate category for the 777LR. There is just the 777 category.

Yes, we have a lot of pilots who choose to stay a senior FO for the quality of life. Probably half of the ER copilots are senior enough to be captain somewhere. More than that on the 765 and 777.
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:27 PM
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I think it will take at least a couple of years to hold the 777. And that will be the bottom on the category in NYC. Also, there is no seperate category for the 777LR. There is just the 777 category.

Yes, we have a lot of pilots who choose to stay a senior FO for the quality of life. Probably half of the ER copilots are senior enough to be captain somewhere. More than that on the 765 and 777.
What would a typical flight consist of for someone in that situation?
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Old 03-12-2008, 04:51 PM
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What would a typical flight consist of for someone in that situation?
not sure I understand the question? A typical flight or a typical line? And for which person, the guy who bids captain, or the guy who stays as a senior FO?
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Trips range from a three day out and back to a six day. The six day generally has at least four crossings in it.
Some of the out and backs have long sits. IE two days or more.
Typical line would be whatever bring yo up to ALV.(Average Line Value) This is about 70-79 hrs a month depending on the time of year.
Junior line holders are getting two three days with a six day. Basically it is all commutable. Not bad, but the only place you could possibly be international and hold a line is NYC. ATL and LAX will be years away.
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