HSLD

Sorry if my earlier comment seems pointed (at you!). I'm glad you're here and appreciate everything you have to add. Please take my remark as a general comment added to the thread.

captjns

Flat Oxygen bottle? Law suit(s), and coffee and pound cake with the FAA... not necessarily in that order.

afterburn81

That's what I was thinking. I wouldn't want to be sitting in the isle seat knowing there was a stiff next to me on the floor. Something about a person having no control of their insides lying next to me. Aside from all the other speculation, we know this is true. Weird......

ewrbasedpilot

While I feel deeply sorry for the family's loss, they have to remember that FA's are NOT trained nurses or doctors, and that they are limited as to what they can or cannot do. Many passengers forget that airplanes are not equipped to handle all emergencies and are NOT flying hospitals, restaurants, convenience stores, etc. Unfortunately, things like this happen, but that does not mean the airline and its employees should be held responsible. Sometimes when it's your time to go, it's your time go, period. No amount of help is going to change that. People need to quit trying to blame everyone. When people have something like this and the first thing they do is seek a lawyer, I have no sympathy for them. When they are awarded a ridiculous sum of money, I feel they've been "made whole" and therefore they get even less sympathy from me. People die for various reasons.................and deep pockets shouldn't have to pay for it. I'm sure I'll get castigated for my comments, but for crying out loud, people do die, and it's not the airlines fault she couldn't be saved.

cma2407

I'm sure the FA's did the best they could under the circumstances, and yep...we all cash it in at some point. But to just throw a sheet over her dead body and fly another 3 hours is just poor judgment to say the least. I'm surprised the Captain did that.

Utah

Bypassed Miami for Kennedy with a dead passenger? Maybe if they strapped her into a jumpseat up front instead of laying her in First Class they'd of changed their minds.

AmericanEagleFO

I agree with you EWR, sometimes crap happens. It does suck they flew to thier destination, but I honestly could say what I would do in that situation. That was not covered in training. Maybe now it will. I also have to ask if this was a previously known condition why she didn't have pills/medication, or supplemental oxygen? Does AA allow supplemental oxygen on thier aircraft? We also have to ask if the oxygen did work the first time, and if it was given immediately could it have fixed the problem or just delayed the inevitable?

texaspilot76

I agree. I see this all the time. FA's tend to stick directly to the SOP, regardless of the circumstance. Every situation is different, and sometimes common sense needs to prevail over SOP directives.

Bloodhound

One thing to note regarding the defribullator (sp?). They are only to be used in certain instances and certain biological criteria have to met. The AED in airports and airplanes automatically detect if itself can/should operate. The article mentions a possible faulty AED. It may be that the criteria weren't met.

Now back to you regularly scheduled Blame Game.

ewrbasedpilot

Well, how much is a "deceased" person worth at this point? It costs a lot of money to divert these days, not to mention the number of passengers who'd be missing connections, business meetings, etc., because of this incident. Once a person is dead, there's not much else to do other than "carry on" with the rest of the flight. Sounds cold, I know, but if you do divert,then you'd have all the "other" passengers to worry about. This becomes a nightmare for the airline regardless of what happens. The deceased person was going to JFK in the first place, so diverting to MIA just leaves the person/family member to worry about getting to NYC. After diverting, the family will be calling AMR wondering why they landed and left their "loved one" in MIA when their family is in NYC. Our job is transport passengers to their destinations. What happens enroute sometimes creates hardships on our passengers, but inconveniencing a WHOLE plane for someone who's transpired probably isn't in the best interest of the company. It's hard to second guess the crew. I'm thinking they did a fine job in a DIFFICULT situation. JMHO..............