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Old 01-25-2008, 08:46 PM
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Check out the "Any Latest/Greatest about Delta" thread. Should have all the info you need, although you'll have to dig through over 1000 posts. Most of the stuff you are looking for is up front.
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Originally Posted by fastsail
Thank you for the post. Can you say awything about the panel interview or the cog test?
Any insight is greatly appreciated!
When I was preparing for the interview I read about the cog test and was concerned, mainly because of how many said they failed it. The test was not as tough as i had imagined. It is nothing you need to prepare for, other than a clear head and ability to concentrate.
Same thing with the panel interview. The captains (both of mine were retired) and HR person were extremely friendly. I know i boned a couple of answers (one having to do with wind shear, I was VERY conservative) and I was kicking myself even after I was given the job. The bottom line: prepare by making sure you are the best at your profession (aviation) and just be honest and confident.
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Old 01-26-2008, 06:02 AM
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When I was preparing for the interview I read about the cog test and was concerned, mainly because of how many said they failed it. The test was not as tough as i had imagined. It is nothing you need to prepare for, other than a clear head and ability to concentrate.
Same thing with the panel interview. The captains (both of mine were retired) and HR person were extremely friendly. I know i boned a couple of answers (one having to do with wind shear, I was VERY conservative) and I was kicking myself even after I was given the job. The bottom line: prepare by making sure you are the best at your profession (aviation) and just be honest and confident.
There's absolutely nothing wrong for being too "conservative". Delta is looking for people that is safety oriented, and that means if the little hair on your back tells you it ain't right, it probably ain't. In my opinion, they may even be "too" conservative than most airlines out there. And that's the way Delta is. They are looking for people that are humble enough to learn how things operate in a new environment, but with a good background on what is safe and what is not.

During the interview, once you tell them you'll do one thing, they may try to see if they can change your answer. Don't back-paddle, stick to your answer. There's no right-or-wrong answer in most cases. They just want to see your thought process.
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Old 01-26-2008, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Toejam
When I was preparing for the interview I read about the cog test and was concerned, mainly because of how many said they failed it. The test was not as tough as i had imagined. It is nothing you need to prepare for, other than a clear head and ability to concentrate.
Same thing with the panel interview. The captains (both of mine were retired) and HR person were extremely friendly. I know i boned a couple of answers (one having to do with wind shear, I was VERY conservative) and I was kicking myself even after I was given the job. The bottom line: prepare by making sure you are the best at your profession (aviation) and just be honest and confident.
I disagree with not prepping for the panel. To me that was the one with the most dynamics to it and the most important. All it takes is just one question that your not thinking about right to ruin your chances. And messing up this part there will never be a second chance. Some people may not need prep here but I think it is to your advantage to have professional guidance. I thought I had good answers to questions until I did a prep and realized my answers were good but how I said them was wrong. I learned good techniques for answering questions I wasn't ready for. It also gives you more confidence when your there. It's nice to know you've done everything you could to prepare and you are giving it your best shot. Paying a few hundred bucks for a lifetime career is a no brainer to me. You want to stand out from other candidates and interview prep does that.
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:57 AM
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Good points by all.

I did talk to many friends that worked for Delta. One guy gave me good input/suggestions on pannel question responses. I did not pay for any professional prep, but considered it. On our interview day, two folks did not get offered a job, and it was because of the interview and not the testing. If you are the least bit concerned about the interview process, I would recommend getting professional help.
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For the Cog test you need to read one of the post in WFFF. One of the contributors goes into detail on the test. Also, need to go to this website: cogres.com. On this site you can see some short video clips of the test including audio of a proctor explaining the directions. The Delta cog test is exactly the same except instead of a light pen you use an eraser head.

Another website that I found beneficial was happyneuron.com. For a free trial or approx $10 a month you can find a wide assortment of cog games. One of the games called "pay attention" is exactly what you will do in the Delta cog test. In that game you have to recall a series of numbers in reverse order. One of the "gotcha" on the cog test that fails a lot of people is not memorizing a certain code you are given early in the test. If fail to read the directions closely or haven't been told before hand you won't know that you need to memorize the code. Later in the test they will ask you to recall the short code. If you don't know it you'll fail.

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Thanks for starting the thread Balloon Chaser. I have an interview coming up in a few weeks also, and have been going through mental math for pilots, the old gouge, and my ATP test prep questions. I have heard stories that DAL is using the FAA ATP question bank to put their tests together, but I cant confirm that. Just wanted to share the info.

As far as interview prep goes, im doing it. I have friends who got hired at DAL, and did not do the interview prep, but I will take all the help I can get. I have some problem areas that will be discussed for sure, and want to be ready.

Best of luck to all those out there studying for the tech exam, and thanks to all those who went to the interview and still continue to post. Its a big help as you all know.
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My advice is that any answer where there was a hard lesson learned by you should be when you first started flying and not recently. Have a problem and then immediately tell the solution and why you would never/have never done that again. As far as interview prep, take some buds out to lunch and have them fire questions at you. Run any questionable TMAAT q's or WYYD answers by them. "Chair fly" the interview by asking yourself questions and verbally answering them. Do that over the weeks before the interview and you will be fine. The interviewers make you feel very comfortable. They are not their to trick you, only see what you will say.
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Your welcome FlyinRob.

I'm scheduled in a couple weeks and I've elected not to take any professional interview prep. I know some people that do these sort of interviews and they all say they can see the candidates that have had professional help "a mile way!?" (that of course applies to the professionals that provide "canned" sort of responses - some of them (professionals) are actually pretty good in helping you articulate your points and tell a story - if that's a weak area.) - It obviously works well for some, as many of those that have taken this approach have gotten hired. I do agree, and prefer, having friends/bosses fire WWYD and TMAAT type scenarios at you and let them evaluate your responses (I've asked my bosses and F.O.s to give me feedback - good stuff.)
As well, a buddy of mine at SWA told me to go through my logbooks and find a few good stories and be "familiar" with them - that will help you answer comfortably and come off naturally. I know at SWA (and I assume all the big carriers with a good military presence) like the military SAR type responses - Situation, Action, Resolution (positive resolutions only!)

As far as the studying has gone, I've been hitting -
Mental Math for Pilots ($26 bucks)
Everything Explained for the Professional Pilot ($60 bucks)
US NAVY's CNATRA - Fundamentals of Aerodynamics Handbook ($4.00)http://www.chqsoftware.net/catalog/p...oducts_id=1813
(I have Aero. For Naval Aviators as well, but this seems to be covering the stuff on the DELTA Study Guide so far?)
Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge (free from the FAA - http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/handbook/)
AIM (free from FAA - http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...ns/ATpubs/AIM/)
Aviation Weather Services (free from the FAA - http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...7?OpenDocument)

I've been going through the DELTA Study Guide and just making a reference list of the info that applies to the areas in the Guide. I haven't gone through the ATP test questions at all, although it would see feasible that that is where they are getting them from? Don't know though, curious about that one? This whole deal is quite a good refresher anyway however, so I'm actually enjoying knocking the cob-webs loose!

As well, I do appreciate all the new info as it's been coming in and I'm really looking forward to the opportunity - Sounds like a great place to be, lots of energy and optimism...
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:28 PM
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WFFF has a new post for Delta interviews. The person who wrote it did a good job of throwing out some new test questions. FYI.
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