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Old 01-17-2008, 05:37 AM
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:26 AM
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Seems a bit extreme. I hope they are not trying to hire guys that will fly for less $.
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Just attended an aviation alumni committee meeting with the chairman of the aviation department at SIU. Here are some interesting statistics that came from that meeting.

The Chinese government approach SIU last year with a request to train 500 Chinese to become pilots (Comm, Instrument, ME). SIU had to turn them down because they don't have even enough instructors to train the 211 students they have enrolled currently.

The A&P program turned down a similar offer from the Peruvian government to train and certify 300 mechanics to FAA standards.

Every week the A&P department receives calls for mechanics that the school cannot provide. In fact Southwest called last week. SIU just placed an avionics guy at Rockwell Collins: starting pay 60K with a 12K signing bonus.

While the current "shortage" of trained pilots and mechanics has yet to manifest itself in better working conditions and pay, the fact is the world is running out of pilots and mechanics. It could be that the older side of the age curve in the current generation will probably miss out on any benefit. But if you're young and strong, the future looks bright.
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Originally Posted by Meatball
Read what they wrote:

"we wanted to be able to consider an applicant who has limited PIC time because he/she has been at a carrier for many years as a First Officer, yet unable to upgrade because of limited growth. Pilots with military helicopter time have extensive experience with “glass cockpits”, FMS, and GPS navigation systems. We felt that eliminating pilots from consideration in the two above examples would be eliminating some potentially outstanding candidates."
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:22 AM
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Seems a bit extreme. I hope they are not trying to hire guys that will fly for less $.
They are lowering the mins to attract guys who will accept being in the right seat for a long, long time. ....And on JB FO wages, especially the 190's. Management has been at a crossroad......raise the pay to stem the tide of attrition or lower the mins.

"10,000 Applications on file." Right.
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:05 AM
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If you have 10K apps on file, you generally don't need to lower the quals to attract more. No one files apps that don't meet the minimums.
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
If you have 10K apps on file, you generally don't need to lower the quals to attract more. No one files apps that don't meet the minimums.
Sometimes less is more guys. Me for argument sake. I have 5,000 HRS of Airbus time. Yet i couldn't get an interview because of the PIC Turbine requirement. Yet buddies of mine with 0 Jet time got hired by JetBlue coming from the left seat of a 1900 with 2500TT compared to my 7000TT and Airbus time. Makes no sense.

There are plenty of SIC's that got into airlines fairly early in the game and never upgrade because of no growth. I was at Air Jamaica for 9 years in the right seat. Great job, just no PIC time. The need wasn't there to upgrade any faster. JetBlue is aware of applicants out there that can bring major 320 and 190 time to the table, but they didn't qualify due to the PIC restrictions. So there you go.
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The VP of flight ops data about mins is nearly two years old. Since then, things have changed. Since the company is not currently hiring, there are no new mins presented, but based on the qualifications of our few 2009 new hires, You'll likely need PIC from mil, 91 turbine, or 121 turbine and a hefty TT. Not always, though, as this company traditionally likes who you are as much as what you are. Hence, the importance here for face time. If you don't meet the company reps, in a highly competitive hiring environment, then its probably a disservice to your chances (at least here) relative to those who did meet JetBlue contacts. Again, no hiring yet announced.
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Originally Posted by Logger
The VP of flight ops data about mins is nearly two years old. Since then, things have changed. Since the company is not currently hiring, there are no new mins presented, but based on the qualifications of our few 2009 new hires, You'll likely need PIC from mil, 91 turbine, or 121 turbine and a hefty TT. Not always, though, as this company traditionally likes who you are as much as what you are. Hence, the importance here for face time. If you don't meet the company reps, in a highly competitive hiring environment, then its probably a disservice to your chances (at least here) relative to those who did meet JetBlue contacts. Again, no hiring yet announced.
Ditto what he said....
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
any reason why jetblue is doing this? dont they get enough applications as it is?
Maybe someone in management has a son/daughter who needs a little slack on the mins.
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