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Old 12-04-2007, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Timmay
At the very least, you'll be top of the class in seniority when you get hired as a pilot, unless somebody else has worked for the company longer than you, obviously.
You will not get any seniority bump as a pilot at any airline I know of. You may get to keep your seniority for travel benefits if you are hired but the same company, but you won't see any advantage over the dudes in your class generally.

I second working at an FBO. I did it for many years, it was a great time. If you are out on the western side of the PHL area, PM me. I can get you in touch with a local FBO for a line job. Generally, the people working the line at a small FBO want to be there b/c they like airplanes. You won't find that attitude working airline ops at PHL. You might even start to hate aviation or get mugged.....
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SWAcapt
FSU, I have flown with numerous FO's that had lower employee numbers (we don't reuse #'s) than mine because they had been Mechanics, Ops Agents, rampers, Training center instructors, etc. They worked for SWA while doing flight training, quit under good terms, went to a commuter/regional or military and then got rehired at SWA as a pilot and issued their original employee #. You have the opportunity to make some good contacts/recommendations if you do a good job. Best of luck to you.
That is actually the airline I was hoping for. I really like southwest and they are hiring rampers, customer service, and aircraft stockers in philly. I applied for all three. I really would love to work for them while finishing up.
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Timmay
At the very least, you'll be top of the class in seniority when you get hired as a pilot, unless somebody else has worked for the company longer than you, obviously.

WHAT HE SAID TOTALLY WRONG
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotpip
Working the ramp is a good way to get a leg up. However it's not a fun job, and I don't know too many that last that long doing it. If you want soem good aviation experience, work at an FBO. Great networking, and when customers find out you're a CFI you may have a great chance to log some dual given.
I was a refueler/fbo employee up until last thursday when i got laid off

i am in between commercial and cfi..

i also have an opportunity to work at airnet as a ramper and then just kind of roll into a class when they need sic's again

fiance lives in philly... i am just up here now looking for jobs...
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:54 PM
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Working the ramp is fine until a bag takes out your future with an injury. Do something other than the back-breaking constant physical work at an airline.

On the other hand, working an FBO ramp that serves jets is a great way into a corporate job.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:06 AM
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WHAT HE SAID TOTALLY WRONG
Sorry to dig this up after it had been buried for a while, I just wanted to defend myself for a second, being as "what I said totally wrong". SKYW DOES incorporate previous employment with the company into their pilot classes. There were two guys in mine, one was a CSA/station manager and the other was a ramper, both had SSN last 4's beneath me, but were placed at the top of the class. The same goes for those coming over from ASA, FWIW. I didn't realize this wasn't the common practice universally. So what I said wasn't wrong, it's just not the way things are done across the board. I guess that's what I get for posting on the Major side.
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If you want to work for a major, I would suggest avoiding the ramp job and trying for something in safety, or training. Something that looks good on your resume, something involving the flight operations side of the business directly and something that makes you appear smart.

FedEx, or UPS, is a little different deal since they do employees preferential interviews. Delta and some of the other majors do not. There are several Delta pilots who had to leave and fly at ASA in order to make the transition from ground job to Flight Ops.
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