Airline Rankings--Your Thoughts
12-03-2007, 09:53 AM
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So what's your (or anyones) prediction? Will the majors flop around and who ends up on top? Will SW/Cont/Delta fall? What airlines will rise to the top for those of us under 55 with the possibility of having multiple airlines to choose from?
I think that's what this post is really all about - trying to pull out the crystal ball and work some magic. Which airlines will still be around in 20/30/40 years w/out furloughs and bad mergers?
I haven't been in the industry long enough to make even close to an educated guess, but appreciate all the input from those with more experience!
12-03-2007, 10:48 AM
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So what's your (or anyones) prediction? Will the majors flop around and who ends up on top? Will SW/Cont/Delta fall? What airlines will rise to the top for those of us under 55 with the possibility of having multiple airlines to choose from?
I think that's what this post is really all about - trying to pull out the crystal ball and work some magic. Which airlines will still be around in 20/30/40 years w/out furloughs and bad mergers?
I haven't been in the industry long enough to make even close to an educated guess, but appreciate all the input from those with more experience!
I think that's what this post is really all about - trying to pull out the crystal ball and work some magic. Which airlines will still be around in 20/30/40 years w/out furloughs and bad mergers?
I haven't been in the industry long enough to make even close to an educated guess, but appreciate all the input from those with more experience!
1. UPS
2. FedEx
3. Contindelta
4. United
5. Air TrAlaska
6. VirgBlutier
7. Mesa
8. Southwest
9. Northwest
10. US Airways
12-03-2007, 11:52 AM
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Why would American be #1 ???
I worked for them for two 1/2 years and am currently furloughed from there. There is, in my humblest of opinions, an undertow of mistrust between the employees and the top level executives with specificity to their bonuses and the lack of sharing these rewards with the rank and file.
75767-Totally agree with Flifast here. But only 2 1/2 years isn't long enough to even sample how disfunctional things are here.
American Airlines and the APA are currently in contract talks. I have never worked at an airline that had contract talks that did not involve labor chaos and management brinksmanship. And yes, I hope the APA is successful at nego.-ed an industry-leading contract.
7576-Totally agree with Flifast here.
Finally, as a former TWA pilot, there are issues between the returning TWA furloughees and the current union on the property, the APA. Without turning this into a mudslinging event, I think it is a fair statement that there is some bitterness among the TWA furloughees (as many as 1890 of them) as they return to service at American. Point being, I can't see how this could be the #1 place to work, versus SWA, CAL, DAL, etc.
7576- Agree with Flifast I don't see how this place is better than SWA, CAL (I don't know anyone at Delta-but heard good things about it)
I'm not a former TWA pilot and if I were one i'd be ****ed off. But this is where I differ with Flifast if this is a Union busting threat against APA.
I'm not trying to pick AA fight, just trying to provide opinions/fAActs as to why AA might not be in the #1 spot.
My two cents worth...your conversation table may have something different.
Second, pre-9/11, SWA was a good gig and under the leadership of Bethune, CAL was an improving airline (mid 90's era).
I worked for them for two 1/2 years and am currently furloughed from there. There is, in my humblest of opinions, an undertow of mistrust between the employees and the top level executives with specificity to their bonuses and the lack of sharing these rewards with the rank and file.
75767-Totally agree with Flifast here. But only 2 1/2 years isn't long enough to even sample how disfunctional things are here.
American Airlines and the APA are currently in contract talks. I have never worked at an airline that had contract talks that did not involve labor chaos and management brinksmanship. And yes, I hope the APA is successful at nego.-ed an industry-leading contract.
7576-Totally agree with Flifast here.
Finally, as a former TWA pilot, there are issues between the returning TWA furloughees and the current union on the property, the APA. Without turning this into a mudslinging event, I think it is a fair statement that there is some bitterness among the TWA furloughees (as many as 1890 of them) as they return to service at American. Point being, I can't see how this could be the #1 place to work, versus SWA, CAL, DAL, etc.
7576- Agree with Flifast I don't see how this place is better than SWA, CAL (I don't know anyone at Delta-but heard good things about it)
I'm not a former TWA pilot and if I were one i'd be ****ed off. But this is where I differ with Flifast if this is a Union busting threat against APA.
I'm not trying to pick AA fight, just trying to provide opinions/fAActs as to why AA might not be in the #1 spot.
My two cents worth...your conversation table may have something different.
Second, pre-9/11, SWA was a good gig and under the leadership of Bethune, CAL was an improving airline (mid 90's era).
And here are my choices for the best place to work
1.SWA
2.FedEx and UPS ties. Hey, i'd go to paris for a couple years.
3.CAL or DAL
4.Netjets or Airborne doesn't sound that bad
5.Starbucks
12-03-2007, 12:41 PM
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