Alaska hiring mins?
10-01-2007, 10:31 PM
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Alaska hiring mins?
Alaska pilots,
Hello all. I have about 700 hours PIC tactical fighter time and expect at least 1300 more PIC hours in the next few years as a T45 instructor. I reviewed the hiring mins on the Alaska jobs website and saw two categories for applicants: a 3000-TT category and a 1500-PIC tactical fighter category (both pasted below for reference).
With only 2000 hours PIC from fighter and trainer, I obviously will not meet the 3000-TT category, but what about the 1500-PIC category? Does T45 time fall within Alaska's intent for "High Performance/Tactical Fighter Pilot" applicants.
Regards, LF
from www.alaskasworld.com/jobs/asjobs/Alaska-Main.asp
Minimum Qualifications:
Experience: Minimum of 3000 hours total pilot time in fixed wing aircraft. Minimum 1000 PIC hours in multi-engine (turbojet/ turboprop) aircraft or single-engine high performance military jet or 750 hours PIC in multi-engine (turbojet/ turboprop) and 2000 hours SIC in multi-engine (turbojet/ turboprop) aircraft or single-engine high performance military jet. Minimum 50 hours flown within the last 12 months.
Minimum Qualifications for Military High Performance Tactical Fighter Pilot:
1500 PIC High Performance/Tactical Fighter Aircraft. Minimum 50 hours flown within the last 12 months.
Hello all. I have about 700 hours PIC tactical fighter time and expect at least 1300 more PIC hours in the next few years as a T45 instructor. I reviewed the hiring mins on the Alaska jobs website and saw two categories for applicants: a 3000-TT category and a 1500-PIC tactical fighter category (both pasted below for reference).
With only 2000 hours PIC from fighter and trainer, I obviously will not meet the 3000-TT category, but what about the 1500-PIC category? Does T45 time fall within Alaska's intent for "High Performance/Tactical Fighter Pilot" applicants.
Regards, LF
from www.alaskasworld.com/jobs/asjobs/Alaska-Main.asp
Minimum Qualifications:
Experience: Minimum of 3000 hours total pilot time in fixed wing aircraft. Minimum 1000 PIC hours in multi-engine (turbojet/ turboprop) aircraft or single-engine high performance military jet or 750 hours PIC in multi-engine (turbojet/ turboprop) and 2000 hours SIC in multi-engine (turbojet/ turboprop) aircraft or single-engine high performance military jet. Minimum 50 hours flown within the last 12 months.
Minimum Qualifications for Military High Performance Tactical Fighter Pilot:
1500 PIC High Performance/Tactical Fighter Aircraft. Minimum 50 hours flown within the last 12 months.
10-01-2007, 11:56 PM
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Most people (but not all) who screen apps for airlines understand and recognize if a pilot has flown a Tactical Fighter the pilot has:
Millions of dollars in pilot training not replicated in the civilian world
Demonstrated performance at the top of a peer group (got a fighter, and is still alive)
Alaska recognizes this thus lower mins.
Yes you will have enough time. You must convince them (or any airline) that the new order (more work and way less pay over a career) will not cause you to be disappointed and unhappy after you get settled in. This can be a bigger stumbling block for some fighter guys because often they have a career of achievements. Play it down. Your training and experience speaks for itself. Play it way down.
The other block is convincing them you will work well on a multi crew aircraft. (IP time is good for this and will work for you)
By the time you get done with your tour significant changes will have taken place in the industry. At that time it would be best to consider the nuances of hiring at airline X or Y but the above two concepts will remain.
Good luck to you.
Millions of dollars in pilot training not replicated in the civilian world
Demonstrated performance at the top of a peer group (got a fighter, and is still alive)
Alaska recognizes this thus lower mins.
Yes you will have enough time. You must convince them (or any airline) that the new order (more work and way less pay over a career) will not cause you to be disappointed and unhappy after you get settled in. This can be a bigger stumbling block for some fighter guys because often they have a career of achievements. Play it down. Your training and experience speaks for itself. Play it way down.
The other block is convincing them you will work well on a multi crew aircraft. (IP time is good for this and will work for you)
By the time you get done with your tour significant changes will have taken place in the industry. At that time it would be best to consider the nuances of hiring at airline X or Y but the above two concepts will remain.
Good luck to you.
Last edited by seaav8tor; 10-02-2007 at 12:06 AM.
10-02-2007, 10:49 AM
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Is Alaska hiring, or have they hired any Horizon FO's with 2000 SIC? Apparently if you have spent a minimum of 2 years at Horizon as a FO and have at least 2000 SIC Alaska will take a look at you? I know it would probably take near 3 years to get 2000 SIC at Horizon.
10-02-2007, 11:00 AM
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Keep in Mind
If your goal it to fly for Alaska Airlines a much better plan is to go to Skywest and upgrade in the CRJ instead of hoping that a 2000 hour window will still be available in 3 or more years.
During my time at QX Alaska Airlines hired only 4 QX guys in more than two years while they took more than 80 from Skywest.
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10-02-2007, 11:13 AM
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Keep in mind that those "programs" come and go. Horizon Air is about to get tuff on contract negotiations. A common tactic for management is to close the gate to AS. Besides even in the best of times AS only takes a handful of pilots from QX.
If your goal it to fly for Alaska Airlines a much better plan is to go to Skywest and upgrade in the CRJ instead of hoping that a 2000 hour window will still be available in 3 or more years.
During my time at QX Alaska Airlines hired only 4 QX guys in more than two years while they took more than 80 from Skywest.
SkyHigh
If your goal it to fly for Alaska Airlines a much better plan is to go to Skywest and upgrade in the CRJ instead of hoping that a 2000 hour window will still be available in 3 or more years.
During my time at QX Alaska Airlines hired only 4 QX guys in more than two years while they took more than 80 from Skywest.
SkyHigh
Kinda nice to see movement that direction. I know back in the day it was much tougher to get on over there if you wore the meatball on your tail, but aint so anymore.
10-02-2007, 11:18 AM
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I dunno bro-ski, Big ugly sister is taking a lot of our guys right now. Q400 captains, Q200 captains, and yes, even FO's.
Kinda nice to see movement that direction. I know back in the day it was much tougher to get on over there if you wore the meatball on your tail, but aint so anymore.
Kinda nice to see movement that direction. I know back in the day it was much tougher to get on over there if you wore the meatball on your tail, but aint so anymore.
In any case it would be much better to go to SkyWest and upgrade quickly since not only will it make them more eligible at AS but at other airlines as well. 2000 SIC in a dash means nearly nothing to the rest of the industry. I think it is a much wiser plan to aim for a quicker upgrade.
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10-02-2007, 03:13 PM
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I dunno bro-ski, Big ugly sister is taking a lot of our guys right now. Q400 captains, Q200 captains, and yes, even FO's.
Kinda nice to see movement that direction. I know back in the day it was much tougher to get on over there if you wore the meatball on your tail, but aint so anymore.
Kinda nice to see movement that direction. I know back in the day it was much tougher to get on over there if you wore the meatball on your tail, but aint so anymore.
10-02-2007, 05:17 PM
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10-02-2007, 06:04 PM
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Even so things can change over night. They also use to take a lot of pilots from QX in the past and stopped. I was told to go to QX by an Alaska captain and got trapped.
In any case it would be much better to go to SkyWest and upgrade quickly since not only will it make them more eligible at AS but at other airlines as well. 2000 SIC in a dash means nearly nothing to the rest of the industry. I think it is a much wiser plan to aim for a quicker upgrade.
Skyhigh
In any case it would be much better to go to SkyWest and upgrade quickly since not only will it make them more eligible at AS but at other airlines as well. 2000 SIC in a dash means nearly nothing to the rest of the industry. I think it is a much wiser plan to aim for a quicker upgrade.
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