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Old 09-17-2007, 09:00 AM
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Most are not giving good answers on the WWYD questions. They are not rocket science. Most that are having issues are making the questions harder than they are. Just put your self in the situation and answer honestly. Do not think about how they want you to answer it. Remember that at DAL it is Safety, Customer service and Efficiency it that order. IE Yes you would take the controls on a non-stabilized approach from the CA. That questions seems to be giving people the most trouble.
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:21 PM
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Agreed. Delta wants safety. If toes get stepped on, or feelings hurt, tough. Every question should be answered with a focus on safety, customer service and efficiency in that order.
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Originally Posted by Shockman
I think the real test should be if you walk out of the 567 question bubble sheet test without inserting one of the #2 pencils in your eye, you must be good to go.
My favorite question:

"Do you feel like you are always being tested?"
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Could someone give me a little help. I lost my ATP book and can not find the answer to one of the gouge questions.

The bearing pointer moves 10 deg. in 8 min., you are doing 360kts. How far from station are you? I forgot the formula to use.

I got an interview coming up in the next week or two, does anyone know of more gouge than what is on WFFF. I studdied mental math for pilots, FAR-AIM, flying the wing, aerodynamics for naval aviators, FE written exam, and a few interview prep books. Any other suggestions.

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Old 09-17-2007, 02:04 PM
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Thanks for the great info Shockman, and congratulations! Anyone out there interviewing on Sep 19-20? Seems like the interview teams like the Military and the shrink likes the RJ guys???

That would be consistent with my reason for being in the rubber holding pattern. However I did see a guy on flightinfo.com that was an RJ guy that was rejected by the shrink and reinstated by the review board just last week. I am one of three mil guys waiting to meet the psycho review board.

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Originally Posted by BoyFromSouth
Could someone give me a little help. I lost my ATP book and can not find the answer to one of the gouge questions.

The bearing pointer moves 10 deg. in 8 min., you are doing 360kts. How far from station are you? I forgot the formula to use.

I got an interview coming up in the next week or two, does anyone know of more gouge than what is on WFFF. I studdied mental math for pilots, FAR-AIM, flying the wing, aerodynamics for naval aviators, FE written exam, and a few interview prep books. Any other suggestions.

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I gave up on that question! Seems only the FAA and Delta know the correct answer. I came up with damn near 300 miles. The 60:1 rule sure doesn't work. I came up with 288 miles (6 mpm times 8 min = 48 miles in 10 degrees or 4.8 miles per degree times 60 miles per radial (60:1) = 288 miles from the station). But I'm nuts according to the MMPI and Dr. V. So don't listen to me.

BTW: The answers on the test are like 4, 12, 48, and 64. I chose 64 and I think I got a 100% from the quick glance I got of my test scores. I still have no idea how the math works!!!???

Also the question about the train leaves at 07:45 and makes three stops... The answer is 11:30 not 12:30 according to WFFF.

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Old 09-17-2007, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Most are not giving good answers on the WWYD questions. They are not rocket science. Most that are having issues are making the questions harder than they are. Just put your self in the situation and answer honestly. Do not think about how they want you to answer it. Remember that at DAL it is Safety, Customer service and Efficiency it that order. IE Yes you would take the controls on a non-stabilized approach from the CA. That questions seems to be giving people the most trouble.
I disagree. I didn't take the aircraft from the CA in my WWYD senerios and got a conditional job offer at DAL. Every company has stabalized approach mins. Go to those mins and inform the CA he's off GS/LOC/AS. You should warn the CA about the mins approaching and the need to go around if not stabalized by then. If he's not stabalized by the company mins, tell him to execute the missed approach. If he refuses, get the clearance changed by simply telling the tower you're going around. If he disreguards that he's putting his certificate in jeapordy. Back up your call by following the CA on the power push up. Tower will cancel your approach/landing clearance and give you instructions. I don't think Delta wants people fighting over the yoke in the cockpit, EVER. With thousands of hours of heavy jet time I've never had to take the yoke from someone that wasn't a student.

Think! Put yourself in the cockpit and think. WWY 'really' D.

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Old 09-17-2007, 02:28 PM
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disregard post - I misread the numbers. See what happens when I am under pressure!

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Old 09-17-2007, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
The answer is 48.

The formula is 10/8 = 60/X

Solve for X

X (10/8) = 60

X = 60 * 8 / 10

X = 480 / 10

X = 48
News to me and that was one of the answers!! So go with it. It still seems odd. I went through it with a lot of smart a$$ people and none of us could figure it out. I went to government schools though, maybe that explains it.
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Old 09-17-2007, 02:59 PM
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288 is correct. 48 is way way not.

The formula (for the caveman pilots like me out there) is:

DME from station = (TAS*Time in minutes)/# of radials crossed.

So in the example: (360*8)/10= 288nm

The other thing I will say about questions like this is that you have to still treat it like an aviation knowledge test and not an exercise in dumping the gouge from brain onto paper.

In this question you first have to rough guestimate: 6*8 is 48nm traveled. Therefore you know you are greater than 120nm from the station (where 1 rad=2nm and another quick mental math calculation tells you that you are outside of 240 ~4nm/rad)....so any answer less than 240nm can be thrown out immediately.

Typically doing this sort of mental math quickly first will eliminate 2 of the three answers. This is especially true of the wind drift calculations as well as the IMN change or EPR change questions.

Cheers and good luck,

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