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Old 09-03-2007, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by f10a
Looks like most pilots are from the regionals.
I am curious why you are confused by this?

Would you say someone would be more qualified by either?

A.) Landing C130s in deserts with 2500 hours Total Time

B.) F18's on carriers With 1800 Hours total Time

C.) Regional Jets at airports where mailine aircraft opperate with 5000 hours TT

I mean this as no offense to Millitary pilots, I was just wondering if that was what the gentleman was confused about.
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cubflyer
No...just a white male. I guess I will apply and see what happens. I've got an insider who I can use as a reference (B767 FO).

Thanks!
Ouch! No boobs and white too! It's a CRJ captain for you my friend.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
I am curious why you are confused by this?

Would you say someone would be more qualified by either?

A.) Landing C130s in deserts with 2500 hours Total Time

B.) F18's on carriers With 1800 Hours total Time

C.) Regional Jets at airports where mailine aircraft opperate with 5000 hours TT

I mean this as no offense to Millitary pilots, I was just wondering if that was what the gentleman was confused about.

If you had to ask, you wouldn't understand...
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gretzky
If you had to ask, you wouldn't understand...
I see you're waiting for a class. Good luck hope to see you one the line.
if you come to the shuttle your first expressway visual into
LGA on the maddog may help you with some of your confusion. All of my carrier landing buddies (so long as nobody was listening) have admitted they had not given civilian flying its due credit. they were all initially humbled by the dog and mastered it later. you will too.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:36 PM
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Flying, no matter your perspective, has its bug-a-boos. The most humbled I've ever been was starting, launching, navigating and landing a twin engine recip post years of mil flying. My hats off to those who have grown up in that world. The second most humbling experience flying was landing a DC-3 on a back-country strip. Again, my hats of to those who've flown 'em big in a tight squeeze. The third most humbling experience I've ever had was sequencing a King Air into a busy approach into Sea-Tac. It was my first experience with driving a straight wing into wake turbulence behind a series of heavies.

No disrespect here for anyone flying into harms way (which is every t/o and landing). If you've made it this far you've got, for the most part, all your ducks in a row. Comparing backgrounds serves only to split the cockpit...and that's not good. A C-130 landing in the middle of the Afghan desert on a hasty runway, a hornet landing on a pitching deck in the middle of the Indian Ocean and an RJ cycling through a jammed traffic pattern into LGA in the middle of an ice storm with wind shear warnings all share the same thing in common...the pucker factor. My hats off to all of them.
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Originally Posted by Gretzky
Flying, no matter your perspective, has its bug-a-boos. The most humbled I've ever been was starting, launching, navigating and landing a twin engine recip post years of mil flying. My hats off to those who have grown up in that world. The second most humbling experience flying was landing a DC-3 on a back-country strip. Again, my hats of to those who've flown 'em big in a tight squeeze. The third most humbling experience I've ever had was sequencing a King Air into a busy approach into Sea-Tac. It was my first experience with driving a straight wing into wake turbulence behind a series of heavies.

No disrespect here for anyone flying into harms way (which is every t/o and landing). If you've made it this far you've got, for the most part, all your ducks in a row. Comparing backgrounds serves only to split the cockpit...and that's not good. A C-130 landing in the middle of the Afghan desert on a hasty runway, a hornet landing on a pitching deck in the middle of the Indian Ocean and an RJ cycling through a jammed traffic pattern into LGA in the middle of an ice storm with wind shear warnings all share the same thing in common...the pucker factor. My hats off to all of them.
Well said.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:35 AM
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Who cares about all this mil/civ stuff. Honestly by the time anyone is ready to begin training at DAL they have paid their dues in some form. Piloting is only one small part of our job, and it is trainable. The big mystery is personality and DAL seems to be doing a very good job finding great people who happen to be seasoned pilots.

My class was 17 mil and 14 civ. All of the mil dudes wanted to know about civ flying and all of the civ pilots were equally as interested in learning about our mil counterparts. The diversity was great and the conversations were more interesting as a result.

Good luck to all who want to get here.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Deez340
I see you're waiting for a class. Good luck hope to see you one the line.
if you come to the shuttle your first expressway visual into
LGA on the maddog may help you with some of your confusion. All of my carrier landing buddies (so long as nobody was listening) have admitted they had not given civilian flying its due credit. they were all initially humbled by the dog and mastered it later. you will too.
Good post Deez. I started with the majors in 1999. One of my UPT instructors, and OG/cc, was in my class. Didn't make it through the CRM portion of training. Two different jobs with two different missions. I love flying mil, but civvy guys make better union members, they show up ****ed off.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by A320fumes
Two different jobs with two different missions. I love flying mil, but civvy guys make better union members, they show up ****ed off.
and that's why airlines love to hire military guys!
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
and that's why airlines love to hire military guys!
especially retired ones!
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