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Monday's class has 32 starting in it.

Raging white

Does Delta tell you your plane/domicile assignment prior to class?

HVYinRESERVE

From what I've heard, you get it on day one or two of INDOC, after you figure out seniority within the class. I start on Monday, so I'll know for sure then.

scrapdog

Wow - this post is slightly ignoramous, don't you think? Look, I fly for CAL, but by no means is this my dream job (airline flying that is) so I'm not going to puff up with pride here...but DAL being in a "different" league than CAL? You've got to be absolutely ******ing kidding me. DAL has some of the dirtiest MD-80's in the CONUS. I think I've found more of a meal in the seat rails than the one bag of sun chips that they give you on domestic flights. And customer service at DAL...I'd say marginal at best. Is CAL amazing? No - not in the least...but I do think that CAL has some very solid customer service and has maintained that bottom line for years (and I noticed this years before I started flying for them).

Ok...1st year pay. At CAL it sucks. At DAL is still sucks, but not as bad. At UPS it also sucks. That's what 1st year pay does on every major...it sucks - it's just varying degrees of suck. You have to look at the big picture. CAL's current contract is mediocre. DAL's is just slightly better. The beauty is, is that CAL has a new contract coming down the pike very soon. And since they've made money the last 6 quarters and was named airline of the year by Forbes - I'd say CAL has the potential to have a very sweet, FDX/UPS like contract in the near future. DAL - who knows...that's a number of years away. Pre 9/11 DAL, UAL, and AA were the place to work. And in 2007 that couldn't be further from the truth.

Now, UPS and FDX - yes...currently that is a different league than CAL. DAL a different league? Hardly.

Express pilot

Like I said earlier, Pilots were going to DAL, scabs were going to CAL.
DAL was at an all time low and there pay is still better than CAL. That is the point that I was making. Sorry to come off harsh. I don't think CAL is not all that bad. I still think DAL is in another league. Time will tell in the future, but again just look at the pay. 45% pay cut at DAL and CAL is still lower. I know CAL is working on a new contract, but they have always been a cut low on the pay between DAL, UAL, and AA. You make a point about UPS, and FDX. CAL in the past was never that close to DAL, UAL, and AA. Ask any of there pilots. They all wanted to go there before CAL. CAL was were the scabs went.

Express pilot

Another question to ask yourself is you don't see any Delta new hires leaving for FDX, UPS, SW, and Delta. I know CAL has had a hard time keeping guys. I personally know a few.

757Driver

Yes, from 1983-1985 scabs were getting hired at CAL. What about the other 90% of us who aren't? UAL had at one time just as many if not more scabs than CAL yet I don't see that comment from you.

A very broad and incorrect generalization.

Express pilot

I understand, put what about all the other points I made. Still no Scabs at Delta.

Flatspin7

So by your logic becuase 25 years ago CAL had people cross the picket line the company sucks? The managment team who set that all in motion are long gone and many of the scabs have retired and the remained have been so outnumbered their voice is basically irrelevant.

Our pay and work rules need improvement (OK its an understatment... work rules suck) but that doesnt mean I dont have a good time when I go to work. I fly with great people, in good equipment (save for a few -300s) and look foreward to going to work in the morning.

Express pilot

Like I said earlier, I think CAL is a good company. I just think Delta is better and other companys are better. That was the start to all this. CAL is still a good job. There are better options in my opinion.