Flight Attendant Poverty?
10-19-2024, 09:43 AM
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10-19-2024, 09:45 AM
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Exactly, that’s why I want them young and on probation. The goal would be to achieve the least amount of “senior mamas” who no longer give a sh*t, know how to game the system, not afraid to call out or refuse an extension, intentionally reduce customer service experience during contract negotiations, and generally less attractive looking, as possible.
Had a FA recently that wants to be a pilot and “going for my discovery flight”, followed by “I just bought my dream car”. When I asked what kind of car, “a Mercedes”. Realllyyyyyyyyy? You want to spend 100k flying but just bought a Mercedes?
10-19-2024, 09:49 AM
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Give me a senior mama any day. New/young FAs are not as good as the senior ones. They are always in their phone and don’t care about the pax as those who really got into the profession because they wanted.
Had a FA recently that wants to be a pilot and “going for my discovery flight”, followed by “I just bought my dream car”. When I asked what kind of car, “a Mercedes”. Realllyyyyyyyyy? You want to spend 100k flying but just bought a Mercedes?
Had a FA recently that wants to be a pilot and “going for my discovery flight”, followed by “I just bought my dream car”. When I asked what kind of car, “a Mercedes”. Realllyyyyyyyyy? You want to spend 100k flying but just bought a Mercedes?
10-19-2024, 09:54 AM
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10-19-2024, 10:13 AM
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Exactly, that’s why I want them young and on probation. The goal would be to achieve the least amount of “senior mamas” who no longer give a sh*t, know how to game the system, not afraid to call out or refuse an extension, intentionally reduce customer service experience during contract negotiations, and generally less attractive looking, as possible.
10-19-2024, 10:18 AM
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Yes. I do. There's a reason we have nearly 80 year olds on the FA seniority list. It doesn't take a genius to "get rid" of an old FA without it being discriminatory. And yet, they are always getting kudos and great writeups from the customers.
10-19-2024, 10:56 AM
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10-19-2024, 11:21 AM
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Constantly churning people wastes valuable training time.
10-19-2024, 12:24 PM
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There is a break-even point, after which senior, older employees cost more in higher pay scales, more vacation, and more sick calls. Aftr that, it's cheaper to train new ones.
The point comes much sooner for FA's, rampers, etc than for pilots. Also they can create those workers on demand... with pilots there are times when there's an industry-wide demand or even shortage and you can't just churn out extra pilots in a few weeks.
Management would absolutely love to constantly refresh the workforce after that point, were they allowed to do so. In fact they still do in many sectors, the young and hungry (especially unemcumbered by family) tend to do better when layoff time rolls around periodically.
The point comes much sooner for FA's, rampers, etc than for pilots. Also they can create those workers on demand... with pilots there are times when there's an industry-wide demand or even shortage and you can't just churn out extra pilots in a few weeks.
Management would absolutely love to constantly refresh the workforce after that point, were they allowed to do so. In fact they still do in many sectors, the young and hungry (especially unemcumbered by family) tend to do better when layoff time rolls around periodically.
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