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Old 09-18-2024, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
During the 1950s, hardly an era of radical progressivism in this country, the top Federal marginal tax rate was 91 percent. The effective total tax rate on the top few percent of people was around 42 percent. Today, the equivalent figure is around 36 percent.

Simple point here is that tax rates in the US are now less than they were during an era that is often looked back on as the "good old days" by many....
the reason that time is looked back as “the good old days” probably has a lot to do with the fact we were one of the only economies not destroyed by WW2. The 1930s and 1970s also had high tax rates on high income earners too, and that is hardly remembered for a good economy
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
That's so cute. You seriously believe the tax on unrealized gains would indefinitely be limited to people worth 100 million or more? After all, it's not like we don't have any examples of how taxation evolved in this country...

Or do you think you might possibly be taken for a "useful idiot" who falls for cute sound bites such as "rich paying their fair share"? Naaaaaaaaaw... that could never be it. These people are our top intellect cream of the crop and they only want what's best for all of us.... 🤣
Yeah, so lets do nothing then. Oh wait you probably think cutting taxes for the rich even more will be good for the deficit and economy. Trickle trickle…. Oh wait they get paid most of their compensation in stock and pay no taxes on that?? Talk about useful idiot. We got a spending problem, absolutely. But the middle class shouldn’t be the ones with highest relative tax burden while we work on that….


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Old 09-18-2024, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
Yeah, so lets do nothing then. Oh wait you probably think cutting taxes for the rich even more will be good for the deficit and economy. Trickle trickle…. Oh wait they get paid most of their compensation in stock and pay no taxes on that?? Talk about useful idiot. We got a spending problem, absolutely. But the middle class shouldn’t be the ones with highest relative tax burden while we work on that….
Feel better now? Righteous even? Good for you! Sock it to them rich fat cats who aren't paying their "fair share..." 🤪

OK, now let's get back to reality. Middle class isn't paying the highest relative burden. You and I are - 35-37% tax bracket as high wage earner employees with effective rates being in the mid-20 percent range. The true middle class got a nice tax break, especially with much higher personal exemption.

There is nothing that stops you from starting a business and taking advantage of all the tax breaks for the corporations. In fact, the TCJA incentivizes people like you and I to start businesses. It also incentivizes large businesses to invest. Case in point, Southwest, right after TCJA was signed, placed additional order for aircraft, hired many more, and paid a grand to each employee because they no longer had to hold back as much cash for taxes. Here’s a small reminder:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/southwe...-pay-tax-bill/

That meant more people hired, more upgrades, more good paying jobs all the way around, Boeing subsequently crapping the bed notwithstanding...

See, I personally don’t give a damn about how much CEO’s make. That’s between them and their Boards. All this rhetoric from the left is based on nothing but envy and cheap manipulation to get people to vote for them. It’s certainly not based on reality or what’s actually good for the country.

Finally, do you think the government is the good steward of our taxes? Why do you think they’re courting the people who don’t really pay any taxes with rhetoric how the billionaires and millionaires need to “pay their fair share”? Time to wake up, buddy....
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
What kind of house is a F-100 CEO supposed to live in?
A very nice house and expensive.

But when the CEO buys the expensive house DURING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, it is bad timing and optics.

I think it's great that the CEO of Boeing is finally back in the factory town.... but he is going to face consequences for the timing.

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Old 09-20-2024, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
A very nice house and expensive.

But when the CEO buys the expensive house DURING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, it is bad timing and optics.

I think it's great that the CEO of Boeing is finally back in the factory town.... but he is going to face consequences for the timing.

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Guess he could have leased or used an anonymous shell company. But I assume the deal was closing before the strike, maybe he thought the TA would fly.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Guess he could have leased or used an anonymous shell company. But I assume the deal was closing before the strike, maybe he thought the TA would fly.
I wish him and Boeing the best of luck, but he should have been smarter about the timing.

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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
I wish him and Boeing the best of luck, but he should have been smarter about the timing.

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Lol, that’s a cheap house for a CEO, especially in Seattle. The Boeing CEO is living in the PNW, that’s a good thing. I’m not really sure what you would expect him to do.
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
I wish him and Boeing the best of luck, but he should have been smarter about the timing.

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What a crock of ____. As others have pointed out…..4 million is not a mansion in the Seattle area. Second, you’d make a terrible libertarian.
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What a crock of ____. As others have pointed out…..4 million is not a mansion in the Seattle area. Second, you’d make a terrible libertarian.
Libertarianism doesn’t solve the complex issues of society. It retreats into the thought that if everyone gets to do them, all will be fine.

And I agree, 4 mill ain’t nothing for a CEO house in a high cost of living area.
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Old 09-21-2024, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
Libertarianism doesn’t solve the complex issues of society. It retreats into the thought that if everyone gets to do them, all will be fine.

And I agree, 4 mill ain’t nothing for a CEO house in a high cost of living area.
Live and let live. What difference does it make to you that the Boeing CEO brought a 4 million dollar home in Seattle? I could make the arguement that as a ratio to his compensation it's a much more modest home than a $500,000 home that a striking worker might have brought recently (if $500,000) homes can even be found in that area.
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