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Old 10-01-2024, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Archiee
Can't Biden order them back to work?
He should.
Are they under the RLA?

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Same goes for the longshoremen.

Are they under the RLA? I'm guesing not, given how frequently they strike.
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RLA covers Railway Employees, Airline Employees, and certain enterprises owned or controlled by railway and air carriers.

Boeing and dock workers are not covered.
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Old 10-01-2024, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravenwing
RLA covers Railway Employees, Airline Employees, and certain enterprises owned or controlled by railway and air carriers.

Boeing and dock workers are not covered.
They are covered by the 1947 Taft-Hartley Act should Biden choose to invoke it.

https://nam.org/manufacturers-call-o...m=policy-legal

Of course the effect of doing that with union members would likely guarantee a Trump victory in November so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to happen...
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They are covered by the 1947 Taft-Hartley Act should Biden choose to invoke it.

https://nam.org/manufacturers-call-o...m=policy-legal

Of course the effect of doing that with union members would likely guarantee a Trump victory in November so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to happen...
Significant difference...

Under RLA, you need permission to strike, after formal processes and cooling off.

Under TH, you don't need permission or nearly as much process, but the president can order you back to work IF the strike creates a "national emergency".

Politically "National Emergency" is a pretty high bar. "Boeing Financial Emergency" isn't quite that. Boeing is not a very sympathetic character right now.

More plausible for longshoremen, since that has an immediate effect on the economic engine. But as you say, not happening a month out.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Significant difference...

Under RLA, you need permission to strike, after formal processes and cooling off.

Under TH, you don't need permission or nearly as much process, but the president can order you back to work IF the strike creates a "national emergency".

Politically "National Emergency" is a pretty high bar. "Boeing Financial Emergency" isn't quite that. Boeing is not a very sympathetic character right now.

More plausible for longshoremen, since that has an immediate effect on the economic engine. But as you say, not happening a month out.
Similar to BA one day of port shutdown equals a week of delay of shipping container to shelf. A month of port workers striking would be an absolute disaster, economically.
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Originally Posted by Archiee
Can't Biden order them back to work?
He should.

Same goes for the longshoremen.
Are you a member of the board of directors? If not you are barking up the wrong tree. Those people on the picket lines do more for Boeing than any C-Suite executive. Looks like you really don't know what side of the fight you are actually on. Keep sticking your head in the sand... if it makes you feel better.
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
Are you a member of the board of directors? If not you are barking up the wrong tree. Those people on the picket lines do more for Boeing than any C-Suite executive. Looks like you really don't know what side of the fight you are actually on. Keep sticking your head in the sand... if it makes you feel better.
I'm worried about the economic secruity of the US economy which pretty much needs boeing to survive and is the only major export this country still has. Plus many of our jobs and advancement relys on Boeing giving us aircraft, some of us will lose money because of these people.

It also annoys me that we aren't allowed any kind of job action despite the fact that our jobs can't be replaced but people with a high school education and paralyze the economy.
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Originally Posted by Archiee
I'm worried about the economic secruity of the US economy which pretty much needs boeing to survive and is the only major export this country still has. Plus many of our jobs and advancement relys on Boeing giving us aircraft, some of us will lose money because of these people.

It also annoys me that we aren't allowed any kind of job action despite the fact that our jobs can't be replaced but people with a high school education and paralyze the economy.
Surely you can't be serious.
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Surely you can't be serious.
that’s what I was thinking, no way he actually believes they have a high school education.
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that’s what I was thinking, no way he actually believes they have a high school education.
I was talking about the longshoreman.
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