Originally Posted by e6bpilot

I agree that fraud is present. It starts in TAP class when the VA rep basically gives the whole class the recipe to get the max compensation. It's up to the individual to decide on whether they go the honest route or not. They have to live with that on their conscience. Worrying about other people is a recipe for unhappiness.

The VA decided about 15-20 years ago that they were denying too many legit claims after a rash of bad situations involving vets including an insane amount of suicides. They really loosened the difficult criteria and made the process a lot easier to capture more cases that deserved it with the knowledge that the outcome would involve some people cheating the system. It is what it is.

My grandfather survived 4 years in the Marines and was shot twice. His helmet crushed his sinuses and gave him issues for his entire life. He had a zero percent rating and received no compensation until he was in his 90s and went to get a hearing check at the VA, leading to a physical and record review from 70 years ago. He was given a 100 percent rating and life changing medical care and spousal benefits for my grandmother.

Part of the contract of serving your country is that you are entitled to those benefits for the parts of you that they took or changed. Sure, some guys are going to do some unethical crap, but overall the VA and the benefits they give are a huge force for good.

Originally Posted by 5tools

And yet veteran suicides rates are as high as they have ever been. The VA disablity system is ripe with fraud and has been for a long time now, and one does not have to do with other.

https://www.mentalhealth.va.gov/docs...-FINAL-508.pdf

The report established that there were 6000 or more veteran suicides per year from 2008 to 2017. The report also stated that veterans consist of 13.5% of all deaths by suicide in US adults but only make up 7.9% of the US adult population.

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

only 7.9%? That means Veterans are DEI hires.

Originally Posted by 5tools

Here's one for you. A total Fraud. We have guys losing limbs, getting seriously wounded, that need these benefits, and then we have guys like this loser.

https://youtu.be/5lfaPrLrwyY

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

... But veterans are DEI hires by definition.

Originally Posted by FangsF15

Wut?



Don't disagree with this one bit. It happens all too often, most especially amongst the one-term enlistment folks. And it ruins things (and makes it more difficult) for the rest of us with legit claims.

Originally Posted by Extenda

This is my beef. It’s endlessly irritating to me to be around a gaggle of grown men in a reserve unit giddily talking about their disability rating and the various “ailments” that they are quick to share with a flight doc.

Collecting entirely undeserved tax payer money. The attitude of “well all my buddies have their hand in the cookie jar, why not me” is pervasive, and it’s indicative of the continued erosion of our collective civic responsibilities.

The VA disability system needs to be reformed and the gravy train needs to end for many people who are collecting disability, but it would
be political suicide for both parties, so it will remain as is.

just MHO

Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

The funny thing is these grown men absolutely despise poor people on welfare or food stamps too.

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

But veterans are DEI hires by definition.