WHACKMASTER

Bahahahahahaha. Surely you can’t be serious. GMAFB.

CBreezy

That's not the argument I'm making. I'm saying it's not good or bad, in itself, but is definitely based on each person's circumstance. As I've said, without considering any other factors other than distance to the airport, the argument you are making is that anyone who doesn't live in College Park is crazy for not doing it. Each person's circumstance and priorities are different. You might think that time is wasted while other find happiness in sacrificing an extra few hours a week so that their remaining time off is near friends and family.

at6d

It’s “Shirley.”

Always good to live within your means, especially with an election coming up. With small children at home, financial stability needs to be a priority—you need to have a “furlough/emergency/rainy day” fund, especially when junior in the airlines. Managing debt now will pay off big later. Is tripling a mortgage wise right now? Only you and your family can make that choice—and it’s important.

DogPit

Show me where I made such an argument.

Werjower

So uhh, how about them positive space commutes? We pushing for those on the next go at contracts, y'all?

PilotJ3

I hope so. Or home basing for X amount of pilots at least

Noisecanceller

The thing is it’s not just a couple bourse on the front and back end it’s loads of time on the actual works days. While the commuter is sitting at the hotel wasting away prior to show and after release each day the in base pilot saw their kids off to school or picked them up, got house projects done, went fishing, played golf, hiking, cycling, or took his wife to lunch.

This all on the actual work days where if you compared the schedules of the two pilots side by side it may look like they are working the same amount of days but in reality the in base pilot it’s living a real life. It doesn’t have to be turns either, I could be two days stacked together or mixed with turns or single days off in the middle for a special event. The flexibility gained and real quality time at home manufactured living in base isn’t just a couple hours.

CBreezy

Something like 10% of trips in my category are day trips. What you are describing is available to a very small minority of people at all airlines. Sometimes, my wife has to travel for work too. We have all chosen our particular work lifestyles. It's completely absurd to try and compare the day turn lifestyle to the remaining 90% of pilots at an airline. You can have it. I wouldn't sacrifice my living near family and friends to move to ATL to do island turns even if my seniority could hold it. It's amazing you can't comprehend that people have different priorities than you.
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Noisecanceller

I commuted for 8 years and I can fathom having to do it again someday for sure. I can comprehend.

Doesn’t delta have trip mix requirements in the CBA?

m3113n1a1

Delta's trip mix is horrible. In order to hold day trips on the 737 as an FO in Atlanta you need to probably be top 5% and those guys are all like 20 years seniority or so. There are ways to drop your schedule and pick up broken up day trips, but that takes work and doesn't always work out. Somewhere like LAX there are even fewer day trips and you rarely see anyone with an entire line of them. It's not like an LCC or even a regional where once you get some decent seniority you can do day trips. Delta likes to build 4-5 day trips as much as they can.