Living Below your Means vs Living in Base
#51
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I have bought 5 houses. 7.5% was the highest interest. 2.5% the lowest. Refinanced 3 or 4 times on different houses.
Things I have learned.
My anticipated income did not come to fruition for many many years.
No house is a dream house. Tastes change, family size changes, areas change. None is the ultimate. I would need 4 at once to satisfy every want. Beach, Lake, Ski, home. All you need is a 1 roof. The other 3 are for fun and vacations. Renting is cheaper than buying.
Our least favorite house is by far the longest place I have lived in.
Many people live in low tax states and many send their kids to private schools.
Most of my friends drive nicer cars than me.
Save more than you think you can afford. I thank my young self for maxing my 401K every year over 25+ years. Roth 401K for several years too.
The cost of owning a house has historically benefited one's financial situation but taxes, roofs, association fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. all cost something. Prepare and anticipate. During Covid I bought 3 refrigerators, 2 ovens, a dishwasher, and a microwave. All with in 6 months. They don't make them like they used to.
Put money into a 529. You can pass it on and/or roll it into an Roth IRA in the kids name. 30K I think. You, spouse, nieces, nephews, grandchildren, can all use it too.
Do not commute. By far the largest negative to this job. I hate it.
Sometimes I feel like an absent dad. That is part of the job. For some reason my spouse and kids still like me. At least I think they do.
Enjoy the ride. It's a wonderful job. Take care of your health. Tell your spouse how beautiful they are, hug the kids, and give back. Someone helped each and every one of us along the way. Give it back.
Things I have learned.
My anticipated income did not come to fruition for many many years.
No house is a dream house. Tastes change, family size changes, areas change. None is the ultimate. I would need 4 at once to satisfy every want. Beach, Lake, Ski, home. All you need is a 1 roof. The other 3 are for fun and vacations. Renting is cheaper than buying.
Our least favorite house is by far the longest place I have lived in.
Many people live in low tax states and many send their kids to private schools.
Most of my friends drive nicer cars than me.
Save more than you think you can afford. I thank my young self for maxing my 401K every year over 25+ years. Roth 401K for several years too.
The cost of owning a house has historically benefited one's financial situation but taxes, roofs, association fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. all cost something. Prepare and anticipate. During Covid I bought 3 refrigerators, 2 ovens, a dishwasher, and a microwave. All with in 6 months. They don't make them like they used to.
Put money into a 529. You can pass it on and/or roll it into an Roth IRA in the kids name. 30K I think. You, spouse, nieces, nephews, grandchildren, can all use it too.
Do not commute. By far the largest negative to this job. I hate it.
Sometimes I feel like an absent dad. That is part of the job. For some reason my spouse and kids still like me. At least I think they do.
Enjoy the ride. It's a wonderful job. Take care of your health. Tell your spouse how beautiful they are, hug the kids, and give back. Someone helped each and every one of us along the way. Give it back.
#52
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,569
I have bought 5 houses. 7.5% was the highest interest. 2.5% the lowest. Refinanced 3 or 4 times on different houses.
Things I have learned.
My anticipated income did not come to fruition for many many years.
No house is a dream house. Tastes change, family size changes, areas change. None is the ultimate. I would need 4 at once to satisfy every want. Beach, Lake, Ski, home. All you need is a 1 roof. The other 3 are for fun and vacations. Renting is cheaper than buying.
Our least favorite house is by far the longest place I have lived in.
Many people live in low tax states and many send their kids to private schools.
Most of my friends drive nicer cars than me.
Save more than you think you can afford. I thank my young self for maxing my 401K every year over 25+ years. Roth 401K for several years too.
The cost of owning a house has historically benefited one's financial situation but taxes, roofs, association fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. all cost something. Prepare and anticipate. During Covid I bought 3 refrigerators, 2 ovens, a dishwasher, and a microwave. All with in 6 months. They don't make them like they used to.
Put money into a 529. You can pass it on and/or roll it into an Roth IRA in the kids name. 30K I think. You, spouse, nieces, nephews, grandchildren, can all use it too.
Do not commute. By far the largest negative to this job. I hate it.
Sometimes I feel like an absent dad. That is part of the job. For some reason my spouse and kids still like me. At least I think they do.
Enjoy the ride. It's a wonderful job. Take care of your health. Tell your spouse how beautiful they are, hug the kids, and give back. Someone helped each and every one of us along the way. Give it back.
Things I have learned.
My anticipated income did not come to fruition for many many years.
No house is a dream house. Tastes change, family size changes, areas change. None is the ultimate. I would need 4 at once to satisfy every want. Beach, Lake, Ski, home. All you need is a 1 roof. The other 3 are for fun and vacations. Renting is cheaper than buying.
Our least favorite house is by far the longest place I have lived in.
Many people live in low tax states and many send their kids to private schools.
Most of my friends drive nicer cars than me.
Save more than you think you can afford. I thank my young self for maxing my 401K every year over 25+ years. Roth 401K for several years too.
The cost of owning a house has historically benefited one's financial situation but taxes, roofs, association fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. all cost something. Prepare and anticipate. During Covid I bought 3 refrigerators, 2 ovens, a dishwasher, and a microwave. All with in 6 months. They don't make them like they used to.
Put money into a 529. You can pass it on and/or roll it into an Roth IRA in the kids name. 30K I think. You, spouse, nieces, nephews, grandchildren, can all use it too.
Do not commute. By far the largest negative to this job. I hate it.
Sometimes I feel like an absent dad. That is part of the job. For some reason my spouse and kids still like me. At least I think they do.
Enjoy the ride. It's a wonderful job. Take care of your health. Tell your spouse how beautiful they are, hug the kids, and give back. Someone helped each and every one of us along the way. Give it back.
#53
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
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#54
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Joined APC: Mar 2024
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#56
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It is a universal truth. The suck factor however has to be weighed by the potential gains living somewhere you enjoy. In the end I chose to live where I wanted regardless of the commute or potential taxes.
#57
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Joined APC: Jan 2024
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Now if you want to define "sucks" as something hideously awful, then yeah, you have an argument.
#58
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People commute for lots of reasons with varying satisfaction, but nobody prefers it. Nobody moves out of base because they want to commute. Plenty of people do the reverse.
Now if you want to define "sucks" as something hideously awful, then yeah, you have an argument.
Now if you want to define "sucks" as something hideously awful, then yeah, you have an argument.
What I have said is that commuting is a mindset. You can choose to believe that it is awful and a drain on your soul, or you can make the best of the time. You can read books, watch movies, sleep, catch up with friends and so on to pass the additional time. Purely in terms of driving to work vs commuting to work, yes, living in base is superior. But I don't look at it in such simple-minded terms. I enthusiastically choose to spend a few extra hours a week commuting to trips because it makes me happier than if I lived right next to ATL. And, on the not so rare occasions where I can get 30 hour layovers in my home city, I enjoy it even more. Or DHs to or from my home city or another base.
#59
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Joined APC: Jul 2021
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People commute for lots of reasons with varying satisfaction, but nobody prefers it. Nobody moves out of base because they want to commute. Plenty of people do the reverse.
Now if you want to define "sucks" as something hideously awful, then yeah, you have an argument.
Now if you want to define "sucks" as something hideously awful, then yeah, you have an argument.
What sucks is my home airport is not my domicile. I would definitely prefer that.
Last edited by OpieTaylor; 08-25-2024 at 09:54 AM.
#60
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You commute because the random results of what you like and what's available near base don't overlap. Commuting is a means to an end.
You don't commute because you want to commute. Nobody moves out of base just because everything about their life is good but it would be better if they could jumpseat more.
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