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Old 06-23-2024, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
So we can stow our bag, that's literally the only reason.
I'm not talking about a 737 or DC9. If you arrive an hour before, or 10 minutes before, your bag is going to be stowed just as easily in the same place. Anyone who jumpseats knows which cockpits can accomodate extra bags.
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Old 06-23-2024, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rustypigeon
You get your jumpseat ticket with the agent as early as possible. You wait til the last few passengers to come down.
next time someone comes down early, I dare you to lecture them on coming down too early and tell them they're not welcome on your jumpseat. Please do this.
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Old 06-23-2024, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
Hopefully some important mentoring took place after an entitled comment like that
Reading the replys here, the entitlement attitude is prevelent.

I had a recent flight with two jumpseaters. One did everything right. One did everything wrong. It motivated me to make this post.

The guy who did everything wrong:
-Shows up 40 minutes before departure and says "they got me up here"
-Starts stowing his bag in the cockpit and pulls out the seat.
-After about two mintues with no ID shown. I ask for his ID and required documents. He gets offended thinking that the uniform was enough.
-Smells like a well used jock strap.
-Gets very comfortble and rests his feet on the center panel so the FO has to reach under his foot for the acars printer.
-In the way when we need to take our PDP.
(this particular station has an issue with jumpseaters waiting in the jetway claming TSA regulations)

The guy who did everything right:
-Boards among the last of the passengers.
-Politely asks for a ride while showing required documents.
-Asked us where we would like his bags to be placed and if we needed to use the restroom before he unfolded the seat.
-Asked us how he can be of any assistance.

See the difference? Both pilots and their bags were accomodated in the cockpit. One was an inconvience, the other was pleasant to have.

I've delayed flights to get jumpseaters on. If I ask for your documents, enough time has elapsed that you should have already presented them.

The pilots who are doing everything wrong are getting more common. Jumpseat etiquette used to be covered day 1 indoc. I must assume they no longer teach this as I see it mostly from the younger crowd.
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Old 06-23-2024, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Crown
next time someone comes down early, I dare you to lecture them on coming down too early and tell them they're not welcome on your jumpseat. Please do this.
OK. If you insist.

I'll tell them that Crown from the internet dared me.
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Old 06-23-2024, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rustypigeon
Reading the replys here, the entitlement attitude is prevelent.

I had a recent flight with two jumpseaters. One did everything right. One did everything wrong. It motivated me to make this post.

The guy who did everything wrong:
-Shows up 40 minutes before departure and says "they got me up here"
-Starts stowing his bag in the cockpit and pulls out the seat.
-After about two mintues with no ID shown. I ask for his ID and required documents. He gets offended thinking that the uniform was enough.
-Smells like a well used jock strap.
-Gets very comfortble and rests his feet on the center panel so the FO has to reach under his foot for the acars printer.
-In the way when we need to take our PDP.
(this particular station has an issue with jumpseaters waiting in the jetway claming TSA regulations)

The guy who did everything right:
-Boards among the last of the passengers.
-Politely asks for a ride while showing required documents.
-Asked us where we would like his bags to be placed and if we needed to use the restroom before he unfolded the seat.
-Asked us how he can be of any assistance.

See the difference? Both pilots and their bags were accomodated in the cockpit. One was an inconvience, the other was pleasant to have.

I've delayed flights to get jumpseaters on. If I ask for your documents, enough time has elapsed that you should have already presented them.

The pilots who are doing everything wrong are getting more common. Jumpseat etiquette used to be covered day 1 indoc. I must assume they no longer teach this as I see it mostly from the younger crowd.
There is no requirement or expectation to board last. Stop trying to make that a thing
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Old 06-23-2024, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
There is no requirement or expectation to board last. Stop trying to make that a thing
I board last-ish unless the gate tells me to go down earlier. Company metal I might pre-board to stow my bag, and then wait in the jetway.
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Old 06-23-2024, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I board last-ish unless the gate tells me to go down earlier. Company metal I might pre-board to stow my bag, and then wait in the jetway.
I let the gate agent know that if there’s a jumpseater to send them down as early as possible (my preference since space is limited in the 73). If you have a preference otherwise, maybe be proactive and inform the gate agent to board the jumpseater towards the end of the passengers. You could even add a comment like “to see if there might be a seat available to them” so as to sound more polite.
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Old 06-23-2024, 10:23 AM
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SWA, come down early to stow the bag and take a seat. Show ID and do the formalities. If we need you up front, you will be notified.
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Old 06-24-2024, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
SWA, come down early to stow the bag and take a seat. Show ID and do the formalities. If we need you up front, you will be notified.

Word.

#10 characters.....
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Old 06-24-2024, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
I’ve definitely had more than one guy just barge in and say, “hey I’m X and I’ll be up here with you guys today.” No id, no asking, just telling. Good times.
had a brand new guy from another airline, never JS before, comes up, throws his pass on the pedestal and says " I'm Bob, I'll be riding up front today".
Cpt about blows a gasket, turns to him and telss home to get off the plane.
cpt then turns to me to ask if that was to harsh. I said absolutely not guys gotta learn sometime.
I go out and explain how to ask etc. Then he comes back in and gets a ride.
sometimes tuff luv is ok also
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