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06-20-2024, 02:22 PM

#61

TallyTarget64

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyio

What news?

no more new hire classes until Q1 2025

06-20-2024, 03:06 PM

#62

nene

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Originally Posted by NorthwestAA

You're probably right they wont hire 2200 next year. Announced to training departments just recently the number is 2800 new hires for next year. Please resume all THE SKY IS FALLING chatter.

Ahhhh, Training dept rumors ALWAYS turn out to be less reliable than even FA rumors!

At my airline, I take what I hear from the "training dept" and assume the opposite is likely true.

06-20-2024, 04:06 PM

#63

FangsF15

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

…but the size of the SL is equally important to your seniority, perhaps more so, than retirements. …

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werjower

Hiring paused until Q1 2025.

That sucks. Sorry for you AA brothers and sisters.

Sadly, it goes to show the denominator is sometimes more important than the numerator in determining seniority. Hopefully next year your management decides to catch up hiring in earnest. It’s all cyclical though, and I’m certain y’all have good times ahead. Best of luck.

06-20-2024, 04:20 PM

#64

Ski Bird

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Originally Posted by Sliceback

Get hired at 16,500 today? You'll be 5,500 in 20 years.

New hire here. Those numbers are accurate for me.

06-20-2024, 05:35 PM

#65

PilotJ3

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So decision is made for the Op? Delta it is? Get on with the first one to offer you a class.

06-20-2024, 05:45 PM

#66

PilotJ3

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Werjower

… I’m not saying the sky is falling at AA but man every day it’s getting a little harder.

Everyday its been getting a little harder at AA since mid 2000s.

From the broken promises of flow through, to the massive hiring because of retirements.

06-20-2024, 06:38 PM

#67

Whoopsmybad

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Originally Posted by WiFly

Ah yes, there's that Delta charm we know and love. Articulate and informed as always.

Ignore clowndown. There’s some DAL people on here that you will see don’t post much, if at all, in DAL threads. For a reason.

06-20-2024, 07:31 PM

#68

beernutt

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad

Ignore clowndown. There’s some DAL people on here that you will see don’t post much, if at all, in DAL threads. For a reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClownDown

Explain? I poured my heart and soul into this place. I can’t even get an interview OTS despite being a LCP, ex chief pilot, various volunteer roles. think delta is a disgusting place and would rather work anywhere else.

No doubt. [mod edit] couldn't get hired anywhere ("would rather work anywhere else") so he took the flow to Delta. Now he's crapping on AA, [mod edit].

Last edited by FangsF15; 06-21-2024 at 05:03 PM. Reason: Civility/Namecalling

06-21-2024, 05:20 AM

#69

Sliceback

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The big question is "why the pause?" Aircraft delivery issues and an increasing manning surplus because hiring/training has to lead deliveries by 4-6 months makes sense.
If the pause is because there's other changes coming it's troubling.

Cutting hiring now, due to a/c delivery issues, doesn't mean hiring won't go back to the 2800 (?) next year. Is the 2800 just a planned 2xxx + the end of 2024 hiring that just got cancelled? An 18 month plan to have the pilots to be in place for (hopefully) more deliveries as the Boeing/Airbus backog regains a more predictable momentum.

06-21-2024, 06:05 AM

#70

ImSoSuss

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sliceback

2800 was a stupid rumor posted by somebody on this thread in probably one of the quickest "well this aged poorly" posts in the history of the internet, which is why they haven't been back since. Honestly I highly doubt AA has the training capacity for 2800 in a year. The hard number I heard was 2200 but that seemed to be a little much. It doesn't take long when we are running full INDOC classes for fleet training wait times to climb to 10 to 15 weeks and at that point AA will put a few month "pause" on hiring. Especially during the summer when they want to keep their CA Flows flying at the WOs.