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Old 08-05-2024, 03:23 AM
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1:1pay every minute over 10 hours[/QUOTE]

What is this you speak of? We certainly don’t have that at AA. It would be really nice if we did, but it would break the company.🤣
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Old 08-05-2024, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
It’s required per the PWA at every airline
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No it's not.
The rule at AA is to be at the airport 1 hour before departure time. No other attendance policy exists.

Heck AA even doesn't have a set time you're required to be at the jet, it only say be there to be able to perform all your duties. This isn't United where you have a crew from brief to fly your xna turn.
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Old 08-05-2024, 05:08 AM
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No it's not.
The rule at AA is to be at the airport 1 hour before departure time. No other attendance policy exists.

Heck AA even doesn't have a set time you're required to be at the jet, it only say be there to be able to perform all your duties. This isn't United where you have a crew from brief to fly your xna turn.
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What if they switch aircraft and now your delayed departure time is now moved up?
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Old 08-05-2024, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
2 reasons:
1. It’s required per the PWA at every airline I know of. That’s a stupid game to play with a multi million $$ career.
2. It starts your clock for FDP and pay. Especially with our 1:1pay every minute over 10 hours, this is important. Also starting the clock for when you time out and rest rules is also important.
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AA doesn't have that.
Originally Posted by MstrAv8r
What is this you speak of? We certainly don’t have that at AA. It would be really nice if we did, but it would break the company.🤣
Originally Posted by Archiee
No it's not.
The rule at AA is to be at the airport 1 hour before departure time. No other attendance policy exists.

Heck AA even doesn't have a set time you're required to be at the jet, it only say be there to be able to perform all your duties.
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Guys GUYS! You can't tell Delta pilots that you have something better than them. Their archaic rules are industry standard and nobody is allowed to dissent! Now go be a good white collar worker and earn that profit sharing and get your butt to airport in case they need you. Don't even think about being a commuter either. Everyone should live in base according to their CPO. That's what good pilots do.
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Old 08-05-2024, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MstrAv8r
What is this you speak of? We certainly don’t have that at AA. It would be really nice if we did, but it would break the company.🤣
APA didn't want to push for it because they were worried it would cause the optimizier to create less efficient trips.
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Originally Posted by CRJCapitan
APA didn't want to push for it because they were worried it would cause the optimizier to create less efficient trips.
Sort of. APA didn't push for it because
-the company wanted to renegotiate (increase) the limits on 4/5 day trips
-the concept wasn't APA's idea
-certain APA "subject matter expert(s)" want more flying/day rather than less spread out over more days
-APA is incapable of thinking outside the box, given how lucrative 1:1 over 10 would be during IROPS (which we all know are really normal ops)
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Old 08-05-2024, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Guys GUYS! You can't tell Delta pilots that you have something better than them. .
how do you live with such a debilitating inferiority complex?
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Old 08-05-2024, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
how do you live with such a debilitating inferiority complex?
Are you talking about the one you have, where you follow guys you don't know and who don't work for your company all over the site and troll them?

You're one odd puppy.
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Old 08-05-2024, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Guys GUYS! You can't tell Delta pilots that you have something better than them. Their archaic rules are industry standard and nobody is allowed to dissent! Now go be a good white collar worker and earn that profit sharing and get your butt to airport in case they need you. Don't even think about being a commuter either. Everyone should live in base according to their CPO. That's what good pilots do.
I never said anything of the sort, and I’m not anywhere “in case they need me” unless required by the PWA while on reserve. And good luck trying to get me on the phone when on a layover or on a sit. Know when you can be legally contactable and don’t answer the phone otherwise.
My point was this:
1. Report time for your trip is report time for your trip. I’ll be at the plane when I have to, delay included into that metric.
2. Even if you don’t get extra pay why would accept a later report to start a trip when you were already awake expecting to fly? Start your FDP clock, time out when you time out.
Oh, and over 50% of Delta commutes, nice try. Never once have I said we are the greatest at anything. And AGAIN AS PREVIOUSLY POINTED OUT, the title of this thread has Delta in it. In the general area of threads.
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Old 08-05-2024, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
I never said anything of the sort, and I’m not anywhere “in case they need me” unless required by the PWA while on reserve. And good luck trying to get me on the phone when on a layover or on a sit. Know when you can be legally contactable and don’t answer the phone otherwise.
My point was this:
1. Report time for your trip is report time for your trip. I’ll be at the plane when I have to, delay included into that metric.
2. Even if you don’t get extra pay why would accept a later report to start a trip when you were already awake expecting to fly? Start your FDP clock, time out when you time out.
Oh, and over 50% of Delta commutes, nice try. Never once have I said we are the greatest at anything. And AGAIN AS PREVIOUSLY POINTED OUT, the title of this thread has Delta in it. In the general area of threads.
Nobody said we delay starting our FDP clock at AA.
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