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Old 06-29-2024, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
IMO the ATL “meat grinder” has been significantly nerfed by the EDP pay rig we have that went into effect last September (1:1 pay for all duty over 10 hours on unaugmented operations on top of any block pay)
EDP has taken the nerf bat to a lot of problems. Toss in a reroute, and it's not hard to be making triple pay at the end of the day.
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Old 06-29-2024, 12:09 PM
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EDP has taken the nerf bat to a lot of problems. Toss in a reroute, and it's not hard to be making triple pay at the end of the day.
As a reserve by choice bidder, I often find myself looking for EDP, just to make some extra bank.
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Old 07-01-2024, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Werjower
I think this has to do more with the fact that junior NB CA QoL sucks moreso than junior WB FO for not that much more pay. Being a jr WB FO at AA is equivilent to other airlines jr WB QoL.. but with less destinations. You'll still be commuting to a coast if you don't already live there, just no reserve rules like UA.

The NB game just sucks the life out of you at AA then when you can finally hold WB, it just FEELS like a different airline that is a million times better.
Are you on a WB at AA?
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Old 07-01-2024, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Werjower

The NB game just sucks the life out of you at AA then when you can finally hold WB, it just FEELS like a different airline that is a million times better.
That's because domestic AA is basically spirit airlines and AA international is a few seasonal destinations that flop between south American in the winter and Europe in the summer so the boomers can vacation.

I said that before and the guys who willingly wear the hat and willingly wear the jacket attacked me as misrepresenting.
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Old 07-01-2024, 07:14 PM
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That's because domestic AA is basically spirit airlines and AA international is a few seasonal destinations that flop between south American in the winter and Europe in the summer so the boomers can vacation.

I said that before and the guys who willingly wear the hat and willingly wear the jacket attacked me as misrepresenting.
Keep trollin' bud
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Old 07-02-2024, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
Keep trollin' bud
Yeah, it isn't Spirit, it's just Envoy with bigger jets.
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Old 07-03-2024, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
Keep trollin' bud
Not a troll, it's the truth.
Get on a 737 and see how much it is like a spirit 320.
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Old 07-04-2024, 09:42 AM
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It's narrow body hub flying. Hello....what do you think it's going to be???

Want better flying? Fly out and back turns, especially to non-hub airports. Fly O&D trips. Fly Mexico/Caribbean turns. Fly 2 leg transcons. Who gets those? The more senior guys.

At AA try putting 'avoid CLT' in your bid status. Keep track of what your awards look like if you include that. CLT has a bunch of short legs. Easy enough to cram a bunch of short legs into a trip, or every day, to add more time/hard time. The problem is a a 1:00 has a 45-60 minutes connection time. That equates to a lot of sit time (unproductive time) over a multi-day trip. With 'avoid CLT' you might be able to avoid a lot of the N/S east coast flying which has more short leg flying.

Before people complain "it's gotten so bad" this what east coast hub flying is like. Been that way for decades. When AA was trying to build a RDU hub we flew a lot of short flights. DL and Eastern did it out of ATL. USAIR had it out of DCA/PHL/PIT. Piedmont out of CLT. SW does short legs but their hub centric model became more common once MDW and BWI became larger.

The one good thing was back in the 1980's Saturday's ran about a 2/3's schedule. Sunday AM was about a 2/3's schedule building up around midday and by late afternoon it was back to 100% capacity. That was the nice part of junior flying - it was quieter, airports less crowded, less chaos, less flights, less stress, etc. on Saturdays and part of Sunday.
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Old 07-04-2024, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BitterAAhole
767-757 pay the same as the long airbuses now.
The 75/76 is old and ugly, it's worse than the 737. I never understood why people like those planes. "Oh it performs so well". Why do you care? 1500 fpm vs 3000 fpm is just what your vsi says at the end of the day.
Haha, 1500fpm? Maybe on a light 321 NEO. Try dragging one of those IAE EPR sleepers (and not sleeper as sleeper car, more like unconscious) up to 30,000’ on a hot day, fully loaded, on a Transcon. Maybe 700-800fpm for the last 6000-7000’. 500-600fpm if you wanna make time by climbing at faster airspeeds than an RJ. Wanna use that speed hold climb mode? Watch it go to 0 vertical speed every other time you hit turbulence.

Wanna get over weather? Good luck, Chuck. Center, requesting 20 left.

You bid the bus, you’ll learn to fly it right to the edge of the envelope. A stupid, but obviously cost effective envelope. Which is what we get paid for, I guess. To be fair to Airbus, I doubt the 737-10 will be any better than the 321NEOs.
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Originally Posted by BitterAAhole
Not a troll, it's the truth.
Get on a 737 and see how much it is like a spirit 320.
More legroom on the AA 737
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