KCM/Random Screening Stats
04-16-2024, 03:44 AM
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04-16-2024, 04:34 AM
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My biggest argument is that we've all worked too hard and have way more to lose than a new hire FA, to mess around breaking the rules at KCM, but then one pilot gets caught with a weapon in his bag. (Or so the TSA says), so my argument blows up in my face.
04-16-2024, 04:49 AM
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Official stats would be nice to obtain but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting. I kept my own personal stats for a year and found I was selected for random screening at a rate of 34%. Months varried from 17% up to 55% with zero unallowed items, of course.
04-16-2024, 07:33 AM
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I'm convinced that things went downhill for me back when a screener found a bottle of water in my bag when I got secondaried out of uniform. /s
Seriously though, I trace the large increase in randoms to when a fellow United pilot brought a weapon down to Australia. It's my understanding that he found it in his bag down there and opted to bring it back to the US through security rather than dispose of it there. I don't know his fate, but one can only hope that he's doing hard time down under. Their weapons laws are very strict.
04-17-2024, 07:07 AM
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Plenty of FA's at SWA who are former military... and they are some of the easiest FA's to work with and yes, both male and female.
My bigger beef is with TSA themselves. I spoke with one of their supervisors after my entire crew got randomed because not once have I seen a TSA agent get randomly screened. Not once.
After talking with the supervisor, I am far more worried about TSA agents being potential bad players and security risk than flight crew... pilot or FA. That's why this whole KCM charade is just that.... a charade.
My bigger beef is with TSA themselves. I spoke with one of their supervisors after my entire crew got randomed because not once have I seen a TSA agent get randomly screened. Not once.
After talking with the supervisor, I am far more worried about TSA agents being potential bad players and security risk than flight crew... pilot or FA. That's why this whole KCM charade is just that.... a charade.
04-17-2024, 07:30 AM
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A pilot threatening to shoot his captain as a carrying FFDO or another pilot in the jumpseat trying to shut down the engines mid flight are bigger threats than a FA can ever impose. I’m more worried about a weirdo pilot than a GGG FA for security reasons
04-17-2024, 09:57 AM
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Plenty of FA's at SWA who are former military... and they are some of the easiest FA's to work with and yes, both male and female.
My bigger beef is with TSA themselves. I spoke with one of their supervisors after my entire crew got randomed because not once have I seen a TSA agent get randomly screened. Not once.
After talking with the supervisor, I am far more worried about TSA agents being potential bad players and security risk than flight crew... pilot or FA. That's why this whole KCM charade is just that.... a charade.
My bigger beef is with TSA themselves. I spoke with one of their supervisors after my entire crew got randomed because not once have I seen a TSA agent get randomly screened. Not once.
After talking with the supervisor, I am far more worried about TSA agents being potential bad players and security risk than flight crew... pilot or FA. That's why this whole KCM charade is just that.... a charade.
When do they start giving them random?
04-17-2024, 10:27 AM
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I'd be very interested to see the breakout of 'violations' by Pilots and FA's, with their severity. While it's easy to think FA's should be in a different KCM risk pool than pilots, I'm not if the data supports that, or not... I suspect we might not like the answer.
04-18-2024, 03:33 AM
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What does being "unstable" have to do with what you might be found carrying through KCM? That seems like a different issue altogether.
I'd be very interested to see the breakout of 'violations' by Pilots and FA's, with their severity. While it's easy to think FA's should be in a different KCM risk pool than pilots, I'm not if the data supports that, or not... I suspect we might not like the answer.
I'd be very interested to see the breakout of 'violations' by Pilots and FA's, with their severity. While it's easy to think FA's should be in a different KCM risk pool than pilots, I'm not if the data supports that, or not... I suspect we might not like the answer.
instead, it just seems punitive and deliberate harassment.
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