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Old 01-03-2023, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Does that include the projected 300-400 additional pilots needed if the current AIP passes membership ratification?
when I heard this plan it was before the AIP so no idea.
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Old 01-03-2023, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Just my opinion, but I think they are dead set on hiring that number this year come hell or high water. They have repeatedly indicated to investors and the media that we are short staffed on pilots. Those aircraft deliveries are coming this year and next year whether we want them to or not. We already have aircraft sitting around waiting for pilots to fly them and gates that we are playing whack a mole with that they absolutely do not want to give up.
Cutting back on hiring pilots is a big signal that you are going to give up market share in a high demand travel economy. Despite our past and despite our current woes, I think this company is in a very aggressive growth mentality right now. The things that take a long time to accomplish like pilot hiring, aircraft deliveries, and constructing infrastructure are all full steam ahead.
Southwest Airlines has essentially been stagnant since 2015. They are sending all the right signals that a growth spurt is right around the corner. This year will be very telling as to whether they decide to execute on that or to stay on the defense like they have been since Gary grew the airline post Wright amendment.

The meltdown was what it was. Either the C Suite will decide to fix it or they will just wait on the next one to occur. The announcement that they are going to open up their pocketbook and give everyone all their money back plus 25k rapid rewards points means this will all soon be forgotten by anyone who didn't spend Christmas Day sleeping on an airport floor. Customers are fickle, and airfare is expensive. They'll be back.
i agree. Going so far as Dipping their toe into E period training slots with this months upgrades for the extra capacity.
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Old 01-04-2023, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Just my opinion, but I think they are dead set on hiring that number this year come hell or high water. They have repeatedly indicated to investors and the media that we are short staffed on pilots. Those aircraft deliveries are coming this year and next year whether we want them to or not. We already have aircraft sitting around waiting for pilots to fly them and gates that we are playing whack a mole with that they absolutely do not want to give up.
Cutting back on hiring pilots is a big signal that you are going to give up market share in a high demand travel economy. Despite our past and despite our current woes, I think this company is in a very aggressive growth mentality right now. The things that take a long time to accomplish like pilot hiring, aircraft deliveries, and constructing infrastructure are all full steam ahead.
Southwest Airlines has essentially been stagnant since 2015. They are sending all the right signals that a growth spurt is right around the corner. This year will be very telling as to whether they decide to execute on that or to stay on the defense like they have been since Gary grew the airline post Wright amendment.

The meltdown was what it was. Either the C Suite will decide to fix it or they will just wait on the next one to occur. The announcement that they are going to open up their pocketbook and give everyone all their money back plus 25k rapid rewards points means this will all soon be forgotten by anyone who didn't spend Christmas Day sleeping on an airport floor. Customers are fickle, and airfare is expensive. They'll be back.
I think in a normal meltdown this would all hold true, but this time is way different. The feds are going to get involved and that continued bad press plus if anything else is discovered will do a lot more damage in the long run. The honest truth is that it will take Southwest a min to recover its image. It can be done but management is going to have to continually face the honest truth in order to do it.
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