Cal Tells Crews To Sleep On Airplane No Hotel For You
07-24-2007, 10:14 PM
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I'm curious how you arrived at this conclusion. What data are you relying on to form this opinion? I disagree with Bush on a host of issues but the fact is unemployment is at historic lows, wages have been rising for the last three years, the DOW is up almost 50% from its post 9/11 bottom, taxes are the lowest they've been in decades, government revenue is at all time highs, (although sadly so is spending) and inflation has been largely non existent. (with a few sectors rising ie fuel, college tuition) If you're an air line pilot your situation sucks because of terrorism and oil prices. Not some mythical evil bogyman going after you.
07-25-2007, 04:50 AM
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so how do you guys explain bush's comment that he wouldn't allow airlines to strike when he first took office. how long does it take his appointees to realise that an impass has been reached. 5 years at ASA isn't enough yet....
a couple questions for the bush supporters
why are oil prices never discussed by the bush administration and why did bush go after suddam so much harder than osama?
a couple questions for the bush supporters
why are oil prices never discussed by the bush administration and why did bush go after suddam so much harder than osama?
07-25-2007, 05:57 AM
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so how do you guys explain bush's comment that he wouldn't allow airlines to strike when he first took office. how long does it take his appointees to realise that an impass has been reached. 5 years at ASA isn't enough yet....
a couple questions for the bush supporters
why are oil prices never discussed by the bush administration and why did bush go after suddam so much harder than osama?
a couple questions for the bush supporters
why are oil prices never discussed by the bush administration and why did bush go after suddam so much harder than osama?
We DID go after Osama. I know. I help fight that war. Unfortunately, we don’t know where he is. And it’s ver, very, hard to find him. Remember it took us (note I said “us” and not “the Clinton Administration.”) SIX YEARS to find the Atlanta Olympic Park bomber Eric Rudolph, and he was in North Carolina, without an organized network trying to help him evade capture.
George Tenant’s book points out three facts. With all of the “connect the dots” rhetoric that was being thrown around just after 911, how would you connect these dots? Remember, no hindsight. You have to go with what you knew at the time.
1. Al Qaeda was believed to have “fissionable material” or Weapons grade plutonium.
2. Iraq was believed to have the technology to produce a nuke in 6 months, but didn’t have the plutonium.
3. Sadam was frantically working to acquire “fissionable material.” (Yes, the British STILL, to this day, say he was trying acquire yellow cake from Nigeria, even if we, the US, can’t independently confirm this.)
4. Senior Al Qaeda members are seen meeting with Senior Iraqi officials.
Remember, no hindsight.
You have to decide if the “war on Terror” is ONLY to punish those who attacked us on Sept 11, or if it’s to punish and also PREVENT another attack—I’ll call it “Sept 12th.” If all you want to do is punish, the Iraq was a big mistake. If you’re trying to prevent Sept 12th, then it was the right thing to do.
07-25-2007, 10:49 AM
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so how do you guys explain bush's comment that he wouldn't allow airlines to strike when he first took office. how long does it take his appointees to realise that an impass has been reached. 5 years at ASA isn't enough yet....
a couple questions for the bush supporters
why are oil prices never discussed by the bush administration and why did bush go after suddam so much harder than osama?
a couple questions for the bush supporters
why are oil prices never discussed by the bush administration and why did bush go after suddam so much harder than osama?
07-25-2007, 11:53 AM
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Not sure what this has to do with the thread, but here’s your answer…
We DID go after Osama. I know. I help fight that war. Unfortunately, we don’t know where he is. And it’s ver, very, hard to find him. Remember it took us (note I said “us” and not “the Clinton Administration.”) SIX YEARS to find the Atlanta Olympic Park bomber Eric Rudolph, and he was in North Carolina, without an organized network trying to help him evade capture.
George Tenant’s book points out three facts. With all of the “connect the dots” rhetoric that was being thrown around just after 911, how would you connect these dots? Remember, no hindsight. You have to go with what you knew at the time.
1. Al Qaeda was believed to have “fissionable material” or Weapons grade plutonium.
2. Iraq was believed to have the technology to produce a nuke in 6 months, but didn’t have the plutonium.
3. Sadam was frantically working to acquire “fissionable material.” (Yes, the British STILL, to this day, say he was trying acquire yellow cake from Nigeria, even if we, the US, can’t independently confirm this.)
4. Senior Al Qaeda members are seen meeting with Senior Iraqi officials.
Remember, no hindsight.
You have to decide if the “war on Terror” is ONLY to punish those who attacked us on Sept 11, or if it’s to punish and also PREVENT another attack—I’ll call it “Sept 12th.” If all you want to do is punish, the Iraq was a big mistake. If you’re trying to prevent Sept 12th, then it was the right thing to do.
We DID go after Osama. I know. I help fight that war. Unfortunately, we don’t know where he is. And it’s ver, very, hard to find him. Remember it took us (note I said “us” and not “the Clinton Administration.”) SIX YEARS to find the Atlanta Olympic Park bomber Eric Rudolph, and he was in North Carolina, without an organized network trying to help him evade capture.
George Tenant’s book points out three facts. With all of the “connect the dots” rhetoric that was being thrown around just after 911, how would you connect these dots? Remember, no hindsight. You have to go with what you knew at the time.
1. Al Qaeda was believed to have “fissionable material” or Weapons grade plutonium.
2. Iraq was believed to have the technology to produce a nuke in 6 months, but didn’t have the plutonium.
3. Sadam was frantically working to acquire “fissionable material.” (Yes, the British STILL, to this day, say he was trying acquire yellow cake from Nigeria, even if we, the US, can’t independently confirm this.)
4. Senior Al Qaeda members are seen meeting with Senior Iraqi officials.
Remember, no hindsight.
You have to decide if the “war on Terror” is ONLY to punish those who attacked us on Sept 11, or if it’s to punish and also PREVENT another attack—I’ll call it “Sept 12th.” If all you want to do is punish, the Iraq was a big mistake. If you’re trying to prevent Sept 12th, then it was the right thing to do.
07-25-2007, 12:17 PM
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Not sure what this has to do with the thread, but here’s your answer…
We DID go after Osama. I know. I help fight that war. Unfortunately, we don’t know where he is. And it’s ver, very, hard to find him. Remember it took us (note I said “us” and not “the Clinton Administration.”) SIX YEARS to find the Atlanta Olympic Park bomber Eric Rudolph, and he was in North Carolina, without an organized network trying to help him evade capture.
George Tenant’s book points out three facts. With all of the “connect the dots” rhetoric that was being thrown around just after 911, how would you connect these dots? Remember, no hindsight. You have to go with what you knew at the time.
1. Al Qaeda was believed to have “fissionable material” or Weapons grade plutonium.
2. Iraq was believed to have the technology to produce a nuke in 6 months, but didn’t have the plutonium.
3. Sadam was frantically working to acquire “fissionable material.” (Yes, the British STILL, to this day, say he was trying acquire yellow cake from Nigeria, even if we, the US, can’t independently confirm this.)
4. Senior Al Qaeda members are seen meeting with Senior Iraqi officials.
Remember, no hindsight.
You have to decide if the “war on Terror” is ONLY to punish those who attacked us on Sept 11, or if it’s to punish and also PREVENT another attack—I’ll call it “Sept 12th.” If all you want to do is punish, the Iraq was a big mistake. If you’re trying to prevent Sept 12th, then it was the right thing to do.
We DID go after Osama. I know. I help fight that war. Unfortunately, we don’t know where he is. And it’s ver, very, hard to find him. Remember it took us (note I said “us” and not “the Clinton Administration.”) SIX YEARS to find the Atlanta Olympic Park bomber Eric Rudolph, and he was in North Carolina, without an organized network trying to help him evade capture.
George Tenant’s book points out three facts. With all of the “connect the dots” rhetoric that was being thrown around just after 911, how would you connect these dots? Remember, no hindsight. You have to go with what you knew at the time.
1. Al Qaeda was believed to have “fissionable material” or Weapons grade plutonium.
2. Iraq was believed to have the technology to produce a nuke in 6 months, but didn’t have the plutonium.
3. Sadam was frantically working to acquire “fissionable material.” (Yes, the British STILL, to this day, say he was trying acquire yellow cake from Nigeria, even if we, the US, can’t independently confirm this.)
4. Senior Al Qaeda members are seen meeting with Senior Iraqi officials.
Remember, no hindsight.
You have to decide if the “war on Terror” is ONLY to punish those who attacked us on Sept 11, or if it’s to punish and also PREVENT another attack—I’ll call it “Sept 12th.” If all you want to do is punish, the Iraq was a big mistake. If you’re trying to prevent Sept 12th, then it was the right thing to do.
I know we went after osama just not with the same strength that we went after suddam. bush's "wanted dead or alive speech" has since been followed up with a "I'm not too worried about osama" comment. I have know doubt that it is hard to find him but I'm betting it might be alittle easier if we sent the same amount of troops after him as we did suddam. wasn't valarie plame's (sp) husband saying that suddam didn't have any material yet and hadn't been trying to get any. ????
wasn't eric rudolph found by a cop while he was searching through some garbage? that sounds more like luck than an actual capture.
I believer that you have to punish and prevent terrorism but we should have come down on osama so much harder than we did. since you were their, I heard a rumor that in the early stages osama's location was known within a 40sq. mi. area but we let the afghan's go get him and he got away. I heard this during the 2004 elections and no one denied it.
suddam was an evil man and should have been taken out back in 1991. what's the old saying kill 1 and your a murderer, kill a million and your a conquerer.
ps. you bold function is turned on...
07-25-2007, 12:23 PM
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Hate to sound like a pessimist but I think the country and government have bigger concerns than our crappy contracts. I wish this wasnt the case, but I doubt any of our elected officials, Dem or Rep, really care whether we make $26 an hour, or $36 an hour. By the way I dont believe Bush was in the courtroom when the courts decided to ruled in the favor of management citing the Railway and Labor act. Remember the three branches of government?
bush's comments came before 911 and it's his appointees that mediate contract talks. they get to determine the impass and the 30 cooling off period. unless my negociators have been lying to me.
by the way what court room are you talking about.
07-25-2007, 12:25 PM
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