FAA unlikely to raise age 65
07-24-2022, 09:33 AM
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Does make you wonder why studies aren't conducted about this, particularly by ALPA.
Might be too difficult to get a meaningful sample size to extrapolate useful data. Self-reporting for one, not to mention types of flying schedules are all over the map.
Might be too difficult to get a meaningful sample size to extrapolate useful data. Self-reporting for one, not to mention types of flying schedules are all over the map.
07-24-2022, 10:00 AM
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Most likely because the results would not support the argument.
07-24-2022, 11:25 AM
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Pilots can repeat this myth one million times, but it doesn't make it any more true.
There are exactly zero studies, from ALPA or insurance actuaries or anybody else, to support this thinking.
Yes, there ARE studies about decreased lifespan in shift workers - but none of those captured professional pilots.
There are exactly zero studies, from ALPA or insurance actuaries or anybody else, to support this thinking.
Yes, there ARE studies about decreased lifespan in shift workers - but none of those captured professional pilots.
07-24-2022, 12:04 PM
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Pilots can repeat this myth one million times, but it doesn't make it any more true.
There are exactly zero studies, from ALPA or insurance actuaries or anybody else, to support this thinking.
Yes, there ARE studies about decreased lifespan in shift workers - but none of those captured professional pilots.
There are exactly zero studies, from ALPA or insurance actuaries or anybody else, to support this thinking.
Yes, there ARE studies about decreased lifespan in shift workers - but none of those captured professional pilots.
It wouldn't be hard to figure out, someone just needs to grab the data on how many years after retirement FDX/UPS pays out pilot pensions. Otherwise, we just keep hearing about this fabled study that doesn't appear to exist.
07-24-2022, 01:01 PM
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So then my question is - if one keeps working until they die, does that extend their lives? Or does it shorten their lives? If it shortens their lives, then there's no concern about raising retirement age, as most pilots should be dead before they reach 67. The 'get out of my seat' problem resolves itself with an age increase.
And the kicker is that none of those pilots collect social security, which allows the social security trust fund to last a bit longer before it becomes insolvent (currently pegged at 2035) which is good for pilots working past 2035 since they'd be facing higher FICA costs to keep the system solvent. It's a win-win for younger pilots to increase retirement age.
07-24-2022, 01:13 PM
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07-24-2022, 04:20 PM
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07-24-2022, 04:33 PM
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07-24-2022, 07:05 PM
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07-25-2022, 07:53 AM
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I have flown with a lot younger First Officers that have demonstrated to me their “mental performance” does not meet mine. The knife cuts both ways.
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