at6d

The population growth in this country is not from children being born. It’s from immigrants coming here.

PineappleXpres

An aging population gives you a labor shortage to include hospital capacity limitations. How’s that been going?

OOfff

a demographic crisis is only a problem if you accept that economic growth is the goal, always and forever

OOfff

welp, guess we better just grow the population forever instead

Jdub2

I don’t think that’s the only problem with a demographic crisis, though. If the majority of the population is aged, how many can really retire? Obviously more can retire if you accept lower economic output/growth but there still needs to be enough economic activity to allow a larger portion of the population to retire

rickair7777

It's not a "goal". It is however a fairly immutable aspect of the human condition.

Also too little economic growth leads to all kinds of problems as populations increase... poor living conditions and economic prospects are a fertile field for all manner of misery and violence.

Probably the best thing is to elevate everybody to first world standards... we have enough technology (assuming political will) to provide for everybody, save the planet, and grow sustainably. You just need educated, enlightened people who live in a just culture where you can trust people who aren't your immediate family/clan. Added bonus... the most developed societies tend to have lower birth rates, even negative over the long haul.

I don't think we need a pyramid scheme to care for the elderly (they did pre-industrial age), but probably close to one-for-one replacement.

OOfff

it absolutely is the goal under consumption-driven capitalist systems.

again because consumption and hoarding is the goal.

not possible. First world conditions rely upon extracting wealth from cheap labor

rickair7777

1. Human nature.

2. Everything would be perfect if only if only if only somebody was in charge and had the power to make everybody do the right thing. Unfortunately it takes a lot of power to overcome human nature, and power corrupts... leading inevitably to tryanny and industrial-scale mass murder. As we've demonstrated empirically on multiple occasions.

300 years ago, sure. Today, one worker's output can be amplified by automation and technology... you just need societies which are capable of building or at least employing sophisticated technology. You don't even need to be sophisticated enough to develop the tech, there are already societies doing that.

OOfff

we have all this technology and still exploit labor in Latin America and Southeast Asia. Literally no first world country gets by WITHOUT that exploitation.

and wealth disparity in first world countries is increasing, meaning the exploitation isn’t getting better, but we are onshoring it as we run out of places to exploit

duck of death

I dunno. Looking back at history, 65 is a pretty arbitrary age. Who cares if they make it 67. If you want to keep flying and pass your medical more power to you.