FAA unlikely to raise age 65
07-29-2022, 11:47 AM
#131
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I don't know that many govs are actually incentivizing that. Maybe a couple with very top-heavy population demographics which make their social system untenable long-term.
And again, human nature. If you try to forcibly PREVENT people from having kids in most places, you'll be swinging from a lampost in short order. Honestly not sure how the CCP got away with it for so long. Captive audience I guess. And their policy backfired, with a severe shortfall of female children.
07-29-2022, 11:54 AM
#132
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If you try to forcibly PREVENT people from having kids in most places, you'll be swinging from a lampost in short order. Honestly not sure how the CCP got away with it for so long. Captive audience I guess. And their policy backfired, with a severe shortfall of female children.
07-29-2022, 11:56 AM
#133
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If you're talking about welfare for single moms, which encourages them to keep having kids so as to avoid work, well yeah we shouldn't be doing that. But I don't think that accounts for a large % of US population growth?
But either way, people are going to be people regardless of incentives or lack thereof.
07-29-2022, 12:02 PM
#134
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What incentives? Social expectations? That's not the cause, that's merely a natural expression of the underlying drive (which is fundamental human nature, rooted in biology).
If you're talking about welfare for single moms, which encourages them to keep having kids so as to avoid work, well yeah we shouldn't be doing that. But I don't think that accounts for a large % of US population growth?
But either way, people are going to be people regardless of incentives or lack thereof.
If you're talking about welfare for single moms, which encourages them to keep having kids so as to avoid work, well yeah we shouldn't be doing that. But I don't think that accounts for a large % of US population growth?
But either way, people are going to be people regardless of incentives or lack thereof.
07-29-2022, 12:13 PM
#135
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You could cap that at one-for-one, so each person gets society's assistance to replace themselves, and after that you foot the whole bill.
07-29-2022, 01:08 PM
#137
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Lol those are negligible. I would literally not even notice if my child tax credit went away. That doesn't encourage people to have children. Rather it just spreads out the cost of raising future generations... EVERYONE needs and benefits from future generations. Unless your retirement plan involves euthanasia once you can no longer work (haha, reminds of an old TV show from the 70's, Logan's Run).
You could cap that at one-for-one, so each person gets society's assistance to replace themselves, and after that you foot the whole bill.
You could cap that at one-for-one, so each person gets society's assistance to replace themselves, and after that you foot the whole bill.
the entire point of tax benefits is to make it easier to have children, because a growing, infinitely expanding, all consuming economy is the point
07-29-2022, 08:45 PM
#139
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I agree that there’s too many of us but there doesn’t seem to be any easy solution or really any that doesn’t involve a fundamental shift in standard of living.
Also the people that are aware and concerned about this problem tend to not have children so there’s another barrier to carrying on the cause. Not too many Shakers running around…
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