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Old 07-29-2022, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaiian 5O
Agree to disagree. I think most of us will fair fine. Margaritas are on me if we ever cross paths on a layover. Good luck to us all, as we're just along for the ride. If any of us think we have a say in things, we are mistaken. Keep it at 65, I will be fine. Raise it to 70, I will be fine. I may not be happy about it, but I will be fine. I'm a survivor.

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You're going to have a long and happy life with that kind of attitude!
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Old 07-29-2022, 07:46 AM
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Cute meme, but I'm a solid X'er too, who did all the same things you did, and I'm here to tell you, we're getting skipped.
I tend to suspect that once boomers retire if Y/Z etc haven't developed a more traditional collective work ethic** that there will be very lucrative opportunities for Gen X in our later years, if so inclined. Probably write your own ticket and set your own schedule.

Worth pointing out that boomers, once they outgrew the filthy hippy/ dope smoking phase, did embrace the economy whole-hardheartedly.


* what I mean by that is the kind of work ethic that makes trains run on time, grain shipments flow, and all the other heavy industrial underpinnings of the 21st century information age work. We may call it "information age" but that's actually just frosting on top of the industrial cake. Eight billion people cannot survive on rooftop gardens and sustenance farming... the vast, global industrial machine is absolutely essential just to keep them all fed and watered. Failure of said machine will result in famine, plague, and warfare on a scale that will make the holocaust look like a sunday school picnic.

I know way too many youth who are chasing their "passion", which usually involves small, niche businesses or gig work (often non-profit) which offer infinitely flexible schedules. While they're pursuing van life and activism, who's going to make the trains run on time (or at all)?

** not really talking to anyone on here, professional pilots are obviously manning an oar in the machine. What you do on your days off is of course your business.
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Old 07-29-2022, 08:03 AM
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I tend to suspect that once boomers retire if Y/Z etc haven't developed a more traditional collective work ethic** that there will be very lucrative opportunities for Gen X in our later years, if so inclined. Probably write your own ticket and set your own schedule.

Worth pointing out that boomers, once they outgrew the filthy hippy/ dope smoking phase, did embrace the economy whole-hardheartedly.


* what I mean by that is the kind of work ethic that makes trains run on time, grain shipments flow, and all the other heavy industrial underpinnings of the 21st century information age work. We may call it "information age" but that's actually just frosting on top of the industrial cake. Eight billion people cannot survive on rooftop gardens and sustenance farming... the vast, global industrial machine is absolutely essential just to keep them all fed and watered. Failure of said machine will result in famine, plague, and warfare on a scale that will make the holocaust look like a sunday school picnic.

I know way too many youth who are chasing their "passion", which usually involves small, niche businesses or gig work (often non-profit) which offer infinitely flexible schedules. While they're pursuing van life and activism, who's going to make the trains run on time (or at all)?

** not really talking to anyone on here, professional pilots are obviously manning an oar in the machine. What you do on your days off is of course your business.
I agree with all those observations.
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Old 07-29-2022, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I tend to suspect that once boomers retire if Y/Z etc haven't developed a more traditional collective work ethic** that there will be very lucrative opportunities for Gen X in our later years, if so inclined. Probably write your own ticket and set your own schedule.

Worth pointing out that boomers, once they outgrew the filthy hippy/ dope smoking phase, did embrace the economy whole-hardheartedly.


* what I mean by that is the kind of work ethic that makes trains run on time, grain shipments flow, and all the other heavy industrial underpinnings of the 21st century information age work. We may call it "information age" but that's actually just frosting on top of the industrial cake. Eight billion people cannot survive on rooftop gardens and sustenance farming... the vast, global industrial machine is absolutely essential just to keep them all fed and watered. Failure of said machine will result in famine, plague, and warfare on a scale that will make the holocaust look like a sunday school picnic.

I know way too many youth who are chasing their "passion", which usually involves small, niche businesses or gig work (often non-profit) which offer infinitely flexible schedules. While they're pursuing van life and activism, who's going to make the trains run on time (or at all)?

** not really talking to anyone on here, professional pilots are obviously manning an oar in the machine. What you do on your days off is of course your business.
you have to ask yourself “is a world with 8b people a good thing for those 8b people?”

many would say no.
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Originally Posted by OOfff
you have to ask yourself “is a world with 8b people a good thing for those 8b people?”

many would say no.
Probably true. But not much you can do about it, short of neutron bombs.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Probably true. But not much you can do about it, short of neutron bombs.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/swedis...climate-change

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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Probably true. But not much you can do about it, short of neutron bombs.
8b free people and the world would probably be much greater. 8b mostly led by despots and tyrants. Yeah, not so good.

I don't think "led" is the word you're looking for. Maybe "owned".
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Probably true. But not much you can do about it, short of neutron bombs.
stopping the promotion and worship of a system of nonstop and infinite economic growth at all cost would be a start. Eliminating incentives to have children would be another place to start
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Old 07-29-2022, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
stopping the promotion and worship of a system of nonstop and infinite economic growth at all cost would be a start.
Human nature. Some people don't get how monumentally difficult it is to artificially overcome that.

People need an outlet for their natural energy and ambitions. Might be able to redirect that somewhat to activities with lower environmental impact. Kind of like sports, which is a benign outlet for our tendency towards conflict and warfare.

Colonizing the solar system might a good outlet... whole lot of resources out there, and essentially unlimited free energy.



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Eliminating incentives to have children would be another place to start
I don't know that many govs are actually incentivizing that. Maybe a couple with very top-heavy population demographics which make their social system untenable long-term.

And again, human nature. If you try to forcibly PREVENT people from having kids in most places, you'll be swinging from a lampost in short order. Honestly not sure how the CCP got away with it for so long. Captive audience I guess. And their policy backfired, with a severe shortfall of female children.
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Old 07-29-2022, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
stopping the promotion and worship of a system of nonstop and infinite economic growth at all cost would be a start. Eliminating incentives to have children would be another place to start
How did we get to 8B people in the world? Not through birthrates within the most economically developed nations of the world.

The highest birthrates, by far, are in the poorest, least economically developed nations. Every country in Africa has a very high birthrate. Central and South America - other than Brasil - have high birthrates, as does the Middle Eastern region in general, Kazakhstan and Mongolia, Indonesia and Philippines, etc.

Conversely, the lowest birthrates tend to be in the most economically developed parts of the world - Europe, Russia, China, Canada, the US, Australia, New Zealand, Brasil.

So, are those of us from the more developed world going to simply tell the citizens of the less developed world to stop having so many kids? I'd love to see how well that message goes over with the people of those countries.
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