APU fuel burn does not matter
03-16-2022, 08:02 PM
#62
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You turning off the APU when it’s not “too hot” is absolutely not efficiency, it’s making people uncomfortable and providing bad service as they sweat back there. It’s true, we should be efficient but not to the point where it interferes with common sense. Your first post on this thread was about saving money, not about passenger comfort. Cost savings should not be your concern. The company will take care of that.
03-16-2022, 08:20 PM
#63
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The point is that customers or crew should never be even slightly hot or cold. If the company doesn’t provide ground equipment that actually works, or if they don’t train ground crews to quickly establish air and ground power so that we can shut the APU off, then it just isn’t our problem. I can’t count the times that I’ve left the plane with the APU and packs running because air or electric wasn’t hooked up. Evidently burning fuel is cheaper than proper ground equipment or training.
03-16-2022, 08:41 PM
#64
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My APU usage has always been determined by how environmentally conscious the destination is about climate change. I respect the local citizens, and their freely elected city planners. I research the population’s wokeness, then plan accordantly. Don’t ask; my wokeness scale is proprietary.
03-16-2022, 08:49 PM
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My APU usage has always been determined by how environmentally conscious the destination is about climate change. I respect the local citizens, and their freely elected city planners. I research the population’s wokeness, then plan accordantly. Don’t ask; my wokeness scale is proprietary.
03-16-2022, 11:09 PM
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I'm going to use 2019 numbers, but to put the $131M APU fuel burn in context......
We made $47B in Gross revenue in 2019. APU fuel burn is estimated at $131M.
If you make $300,000 per year, this would be an expense equal to roughly $854.
It isn't nothing, but it isn't something to kill yourself over saving a few bucks.
Yes, as pilots we see number like 131M and think "oh my god! Millions of dollars!!"
But don't forget that millions of dollars to an airline this size is a rounding error.
Cool off the cabins. Don't be ridiculous.
We made $47B in Gross revenue in 2019. APU fuel burn is estimated at $131M.
If you make $300,000 per year, this would be an expense equal to roughly $854.
It isn't nothing, but it isn't something to kill yourself over saving a few bucks.
Yes, as pilots we see number like 131M and think "oh my god! Millions of dollars!!"
But don't forget that millions of dollars to an airline this size is a rounding error.
Cool off the cabins. Don't be ridiculous.
03-17-2022, 12:47 AM
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You have made the comment before that long sleeve shirts are your jam. This, along with other known parameters, tells me you are thin. 95% of your passengers are not. Based on your post history, I’m certain that this disgusts you….and making decisions based on THEIR comfort, not YOURS….is most likely beneath you. In other words….just because you’re comfortable, doesn’t mean they are. The cabin is much worse than the cockpit in most of these planes.
03-17-2022, 04:54 AM
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03-17-2022, 05:22 AM
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Exactly. I don’t care about fuel, I care about comfort. If that comfort can be obtained from a working air cart, that works. Years of examples of air carts being woefully lacking has led me to the APU almost exclusively. I care about comfort, not cost. It’s up to management to make those two items work, not me.
03-17-2022, 07:03 AM
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You have made the comment before that long sleeve shirts are your jam. This, along with other known parameters, tells me you are thin. 95% of your passengers are not. Based on your post history, I’m certain that this disgusts you….and making decisions based on THEIR comfort, not YOURS….is most likely beneath you. In other words….just because you’re comfortable, doesn’t mean they are. The cabin is much worse than the cockpit in most of these planes.
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